Hi all.

Now that 2.4 is out and everything maybe it's
about time to start discussing the "use the
__source__ Luke" feature which IMO will really
boost python into a new domain of exciting
possibilities.

I've prepared a pre-PEP which is not very good
but it is a base.

In short, the feature is good and it enables
editing of python code at runtime instead of
the runfile-exit-edit-run-exit-edit-run cycle.

We have the following possibilities as to whether
__source__ data is marshalled and the feature is
always enabled.

[1] Command line switch and not marshalled
[2] Always on and not marshalled
[3] Always on and marshalled

There is also [4] which doesn't make much sense.

If I was BDFL I'd go for [1] so whoever wants it
can enable it and whoever doesn't can't complain,
and they'll all leave me alone.
Phillip J. Eby expressed some concerns that the
modules that depend on __source__ will eventually
take over and it will become a standard.

Anyway, the PEP is attached.
You can mail me with votes on the feature and if you
want on your preferred option from 1,2,3.
If I get votes I'll post the results later.

If this is accepted I'll try to come up with a good
patch vs 2.4


Thanks,

St.


-------------------ATTACHED PYTHON ENHANCEMENT PROPOSAL--- PEP: XXX Title: The __source__ attribute Version: $Revision: 1.10 $ Last-Modified: $Date: 2003/09/22 04:51:49 $ Author: Stelios Xanthakis Status: Draft Type: Standards Track Content-Type: text/plain Created: 19-Nov-2004 Python-Version: 2.4.1 Post-History:


Abstract

    This PEP suggests the implementation of __source__ attribute for
    functions and classes.  The attribute is a read-only string which
    is generated by the parser and is a copy of the original source
    code of the function/class (including comments, indentation and
    whitespace).


Motivation

    It is generally a tempting idea to use python as an interface to
    a program.  The developers can implement all the functionality
    and instead of designing a user interface, provide a python
    interpreter to their users.  Take for example one of the existing
    web browsers: they have everything that would be needed to write
    a script which downloads pages automatically or premutates the
    letters of web pages before they are displayed, but it is not
    possible for the user to do these things because the interface
    of these applications is static.

    A much more powerful approach would be an interface which is
    dynamically constructed by the user to meet the user's needs.
    The most common development cycle of python programs is:
    write .py file - execute .py file - exit - enhance .py file -
    execute .py file - etc.  With the implementation of the __source__
    attribute though the development/modification of python code
    can happen at run-time.  Functions and classes can be defined,
    modified or enhanced while the python shell is running and
    all the changes can be saved by saving the __source__ attribute
    of globals before termination.  Moreover, in such a system
    it is possible to modify the "code modification routines" and
    eventually we have a self-modifying interface.  Using a
    program also means improving its usability.

    The current solution of using 'inspect' to get the source
    code of functions is not adequate because it doesn't work
    for code defined with "exec" and it doesn't have the source
    of functions/classes defined in the interactive mode.  Generally,
    a "file" is something too abstract.  What is more real is the
    data received by the python parser and that is what is stored
    in __source__.


Specification

    The __source__ attribute is a read-only attribute of functions
    and classes.  Its type is string or None.  In the case of None
    it means that the source was not available.

    The indentation of the code block is the original identation
    obeying nested definitions.  For example:

        >>> class A:
        ...     def foo (self):
        ...         print """Santa-Clauss
        ... is coming to town"""
        >>> def spam ():
        ...     def closure ():
        ...         pass
        ...     return closure
        >>> print A.foo.__source__
            def foo (self):
                print """Santa-Clauss
        is coming to town"""
        >>> print spam().__source__
            def closure ():
                pass

    The attribute is not marshaled and therefore not stored in
    ".pyc" files.  As a consequence, functions and classes of
    imported modules have __source__==None.

    We propose that the generation of __source__ will be
    controlled by a command line option.  In the case this
    feature is not activated by the command line option, the
    attribute is absent.


Rationale

    Generally, "import" refers to modules that either have a file in
    a standard location or they are distributed in ".pyc" form only.
    Therefore in the case of modules, getting the source with
    "inspect" is adequate.  Moreover, it does not make sense saving
    __source__ in ".pyc" because the point would be to save
    modifications in the original ".py" file (if available).

    On the issue of the command-line option controlling the generation
    of __source__, please refer to the section about the overhead
    of this feature.  The rationale is that those applications that
    do not wish to use this feature can avoid it (cgi scripts in
    python benchmarked against another language).


Overhead

    The python's parser is not exactly well-suited for such a feature.
    Execution of python code goes through the stages of lexical
    analysis, tokenization, generation of AST and execution of
    bytecode.  In order to implement __source__, the tokenizer has
    to be modified to store the lines of the current translation
    unit.  Those lines are then attached the root node of the
    AST.  While the AST is compiled we have to keep a reference
    of the current node in order to be able to find the next node
    after the node for which we wish to generate __source__, get
    the first and the last line of our block and then refer to
    the root node to extract these lines and make a string.  All
    these actions add a minor overhead to some heavily optimized
    parts of python.  However, once compilation to bytecode is
    done, this feature no longer affects the performance of the
    execution of the bytecode.

    There is also the issue of the memory spent to store __source__.
    In our opinion, this is worth the tradeoff for those who
    are willing to take advantage of it.


Implementation

    There is a sample implementation at [2] which consists of a
    patch against python 2.3.4.  The patch has to be improved
    to avoid generating __source__ for the case we are importing
    modules for the first time (not from .pyc).  In the sample
    implementation there is also included a sample shell that
    takes advantage of __source__ and demonstrates some aspects
    that motivated us towards patching python and submitting this
    PEP.


References

    [1] PEP 1, PEP Purpose and Guidelines, Warsaw, Hylton
        http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0001.html

    [2] Sample implementation
        http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~sxanth/ISYSTEM/python-PIESS.tar.gz


Copyright

    This document has been placed in the public domain.



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