Hi Robert

I personally think these are too many levels. 

Instead introducing complexity by levels I would suggest you to implement a 
review process (like: pull-requests with mandatory reviews) to prevent 
disallowed settings to even hit production. This also will help you to 
share knowledge and give you better quality in the end.

- Thomas

Am Sonntag, 6. Mai 2018 21:26:55 UTC+2 schrieb Robert:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I invite you to a bit of brain-workout ;) I couldn't figure this out on my 
> own so far.
>
> At our company we have a group of linux-admins who are responsible for the 
> infrastructure (the hardware and the operating system) and we have 
> application teams, like the database admins or a team for the backup 
> software.
>
> Some servers are only administered by the linux-admins, but in many cases, 
> we'd like to  delegate them to one app-team. The OS settings always belong 
> to the linux-admins, but e.g. Oracle itself is administered by the database 
> team.
>
> To achieve that, we have 9 levels of hierarchy in hiera atm. The ordered 
> list of data sources is the following:
>
>    1. admin level: node yamls
>    2. admin level: role/stage (e.g. oracle/prod)
>    3. admin level: role (e.g. oracle)
>    4. admin level: common
>    
>    5. $team level: node yamls
>    6. $team level: role/stage
>    7. $team level: role
>    8. $team level: common
>    
>    9. default.yaml
>
> If something is set on the levels 1-4, the teams can not override it, 
> because that's how Hiera works (assuming proper lookup options of course). 
> The team levels are actual git repositories of the given team; $team is a 
> custom fact.
>
> So if I specify "oracle" as the value of the $team custom fact on a given 
> server, Hiera will look up keys/values from the oracle repository as the 
> 5-8 levels. That does work, everything's fine.
>
> And the problem: sometimes I'd like to have teams to control only a 
> specific application, on a server which is already delegated to a team. 
> E.g. the backup admins should be able to configure the backup software's 
> agent on Oracle *and* webservers as well, but $team == oracle and $team == 
> web on these servers already, of course. 
>
> I might add the backup-team levels at 9-12 and move "default" to 13, but 
> there won't be only one such "secondary" team. And 13 are already a LOT 
> of hiera levels, not to mention even more...
>
> Any ideas how to do this? The easiest way would be of course to give the 
> backupteam access to every team-repository. Erm... no.
>
> Then, maybe every $team repository could have a subdirectory for such 
> secondary groups, e.g. the oracle/backup directory to which the backup 
> team's access is restricted, so that they can't see or edit the oracle 
> settings outside of this. But I can't do this with git afaik (with svn 
> that'd work).
>
> Any ideas, suggestions?
>
> Best
> Rp
>
>
>

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