On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 5:06:33 PM UTC-4, Poil wrote: > > I'm agree with "Debian is just by design stupid, thinks starting all > services" > All other integration are really fine, but auto-starting after install is > terrible for all configuration management : > Change a path (mysql binary log for example), a mount point (a LV for > mysql) before installing : Nope you can't > You have to write a hack to remove all autostart from the package before > installing it that's incredible. > > I dream about a Debian mix with RedHat, RPM, no auto-start but all the > configuration system from Debian (splited-conf for apache php ... and tools > to manage your modules >
Well, what you're complaining about is the package maintainers, not the OS-- it's the post install scripts that start up the services. You might want to look into openSuSE-- RPM based, but package configuration tends to be more modular than Red Hat. The openSuSE build service is also a nice feature. You'll still run into the same thing with openSuSE and Red Hat-- RHEL7, if you install "nfs-utils" (traditionally the "nfs client" package-- but now it's the server package too), for example, you get the NFS server installed, running, set to auto-start, with portmapper running. And I'm sure for every person who gripes about package X installing itself as 'autostart', you'll find at least one person who complains that they've got to enable the service after installation. Personally, I don't care-- ultimately, I use puppet to ensure the package is installed, configured, and the service is enabled how *I* want it. Nearly all of my configuration changes are linked to the service, so if I update a config file, the service is automatically restarted. That's kind of the whole point of puppet. Calling an OS "stupid" because they made decisions you disagree with is short-sighted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c94494b2-a5f0-4132-8b8c-041baf174627%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
