Hi, WebAPI fans-
The minutes for the 27 Feb 2008 DOM3 Events telcon can be found here:
http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html
Or as text, below:
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Web API WG Teleconference
27 Feb 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/27_Feb_2008
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-irc
Attendees
Present
Carmelo, Andrew_Emmons, Doug, Travis
Regrets
Chair
Doug
Scribe
Carmelo
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]DoubleClick
2. [6]Double Click
3. [7]lets differ wheels to next week
4. [8]dblclick Tests
5. [9]'alt'-key
6. [10]mousewheel overview
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 27 February 2008
<scribe> Scribe: Carmelo
<scribe> ScribeNick:Carmelo
<TL> Here I am.
TL: Changes his name to Travis
DS: We decided not to talk about Key events
... We need to decide how to handle keyboards and that sort of
things
... Lets start with Double Click
DoubleClick
Double Click
<aemmons>
[12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0050.h
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[12]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0050.html
AS: Two issuus Regarding Doubing Click
DS: Can u summarize?
AS: Should the detail value be for Double Click?
... Consensus is should be teh same as click
... Described and explained teh link above
TL: Can an example be provid?
R: detail for double click will be the same a the click
<aemmons> RESOLUTION: detail for double click will be the same a the
click
<aemmons> RESOLUTION: We accept the current wording in the spec
regarding what the current click count means
<shepazu> ACTION: aemmons to add informative examples of different
click counts for dblclick [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-246 - Add informative examples of
different click counts for dblclick [on Andrew Emmons - due
2008-03-05].
DS: We are finish with double Click
lets differ wheels to next week
DS: Let's review the DoubleClick Test
<shepazu>
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.h
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[14]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.html
dblclick Tests
<shepazu> test 1:
[15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.h
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[15]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.html
DS; If red shown in the test it means failure
DS: Green usually a pass
... Instruction For each test
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to provied test template [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-247 - Provied test template [on Doug
Schepers - due 2008-03-05].
DS: Test should work on every Browser
... Test should figure out if person Double Click
... How can we actually check for that?
... We should make a framework for the test
<scribe> ACTION: TL to give us a script library that will add
listener events. [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-248 - Give us a script library that will
add listener events. [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05].
<shepazu> ACTION: Travis to provide simple abstraction layer for
addEventListener [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-249 - Provide simple abstraction layer for
addEventListener [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05].
DS: We will build a script layer for testing
Carmelo: How critical is add eventListener?
DS: mmmm not sure?
TL: addEventListener is one of the key pieces different from
implementations
... Another piece that is different Scope of the event object itself
TL; Will be happy to provide a small library to buil on
TL: Will be happy to provide a small library to buil on
<aemmons>
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0164.h
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[19]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0164.html
AE: Above link is an SVG version of the NIST test
AS: Lets Move on
DS: Ok
'alt'-key
<shepazu> [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/122
[20] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/122
TL: ALT key events is sometimes loose.
... Explained the issue and the scenarios for "ALT" handling
DL: propoesed two options
sub/DL/TL/
sub /DL/TL/
DS: Thsi behavious is somehow address in DOM 3 events
... maybe this should be on next week's agenda
DS; None of this should be dependent on any OS
DS: We cna have a non- normative appendix for somer key sequences
TL: That will be a good place for this (some key sequences)
... Was the difference of behaviour in OS's was somewhat expected?
<scribe> ACTION: Travis to provide a simple test for modifier key
combinations (specifically the "alt" key). [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-250 - to provide a simple test for
modifier key combinations (specifically the \"alt\" key). [on Travis
Leithead - due 2008-03-05].
Resolution: We will provide a model for event order and provide an
informative appendix with major known exceptions to this model.
DS: Next week we will talk about key event sequence models
... Please provide things tht we think need to be solved
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to provide Andrew with model wording for key
evnts sequence [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-251 - Provide Andrew with model wording
for key evnts sequence [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05].
mousewheel overview
DS: mousewheel event should be derive from mouse event .
... Another issue Some mousewheels let navigate on non-orthogonal
directions.
... How to recognize single direction with multiple direction
devices.
TL: Is it possible to keep a single event aned derive the others?
DS: Yes that is basically what omnievent is trying to accomplish.
AS: Was happy with Travis single event idea as it simplifies context
<shepazu> Resolution: remove multimousewheel, put additional
dimensional delta values on mousewheel
<Hixie> wow, after the months of telecons we spent on
multimousewheel, we're removing it again?
<Hixie> i'm sure glad i don't both attending telecons anymore
<shepazu> Hixie, we're going to send a proposal to the list, we
think we have a better model
<Hixie> cool
<shepazu> ACTION: Doug to send mousewheel proposal to list [recorded
in [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-252 - Send mousewheel proposal to list [on
Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05].
DS: What are useful things to test on double click?
... the only normative thing we can say about click count is that
there is a click count
... That can be tested
<shepazu> trackbot: adjourn
<shepazu> trackbot, adjourn
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: aemmons to add informative examples of different click
counts for dblclick [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to provide Andrew with model wording for key
evnts sequence [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to provied test template [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to send mousewheel proposal to list [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: TL to give us a script library that will add listener
events. [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Travis to provide a simple test for modifier key
combinations (specifically the "alt" key). [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Travis to provide simple abstraction layer for
addEventListener [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action04]
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