On 2018/09/25 01:53, Daniel Dickman wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:10 AM, Björn Ketelaars
> <bjorn.ketela...@hydroxide.nl> wrote:
> > However, I'm not confident that there is enough time to test the above
> > before the 6.4 freeze. Therefore I would like to propose to revert the
> > recent update of py-zmq. Diff enclosed.

OK sthen@

> let me ponder this for a few days before we revert py-zmq. I've done
> most of the same updates locally on my end so I'll compare my work
> with yours.

We can always put it back in later if we're confident in the other updates
(there's not a massive chain of dependencies). I don't see a downside, and
at this point leaving it broken for a few days risks it being broken for
release.

(half-serious suggestion, maybe we should set all ports to EPOCH=0 to
avoid the barrier of people not wanting to add EPOCH where it didn't
exist before..)

> Question in the meantime. Does a slightly older version of matplotlib
> fix the problem for you? For example, 2.0.2? That version can avoid
> some of the risk of doing such a big update. For example, it doesn't
> depend on kiwisolver and subprocess32 is allegedly optional. I think
> if that version fixes the problem it would really minimize the risk of
> doing an update.

Adding new dependencies are fairly low-risk (the only real problem is if
some existing port starts picking them up and either breaking as a result,
or switching on some code which makes it a new dependency), updates are
riskier.

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