It is obvious that bad implementations and reinventions of the wheel are 
systemd, wayland and pipewire, instead of creating solutions, they create 
problems.

We should start now, a way to maintain stable software and with a sound 
development philosophy, focusing on portability and security, applications 
using gtk, should they be abandoned in the gtk 5 version or have a fork, they 
can be replaced by equivalents in other libraries.

There is no way to continue reinventing the wheel, each new software, without 
stable APIs, *BSD systems adopting Linux instability, will end up following the 
same path!

Em 12 de outubro de 2023 12:00:08 BRT, David Demelier <mark...@malikania.fr> 
escreveu:
>On Wed, 2023-10-11 at 17:17 +0000, Chris Narkiewicz wrote:
>> https://m.slashdot.org/story/420067
>> 
>> TL;DR, the writing is on the wall, but I'm wondering how gnome port
>> maintainers see this development? We already lost KDE. Are we in
>> danger of losing Gnome as well?
>
>At least general X11 support is still there and for long in UI
>toolkits, meaning that we will still be able to use alternatives like
>mate, xfce, etc. Let's hope that they don't ditch X11 in Gtk anytime
>soon but it does not seem to be planned for Gtk 5 [0].
>
>What's questionable is that wayland has still various issues towards
>input management: I still can't get any VNC on GNOME, proper input
>grabbing in qemu leading me to use X.Org most of the time even outside
>of OpenBSD.
>
>[0]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5004
>
>-- 
>David
>

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