It is obvious that bad implementations and reinventions of the wheel are systemd, wayland and pipewire, instead of creating solutions, they create problems.
We should start now, a way to maintain stable software and with a sound development philosophy, focusing on portability and security, applications using gtk, should they be abandoned in the gtk 5 version or have a fork, they can be replaced by equivalents in other libraries. There is no way to continue reinventing the wheel, each new software, without stable APIs, *BSD systems adopting Linux instability, will end up following the same path! Em 12 de outubro de 2023 12:00:08 BRT, David Demelier <mark...@malikania.fr> escreveu: >On Wed, 2023-10-11 at 17:17 +0000, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: >> https://m.slashdot.org/story/420067 >> >> TL;DR, the writing is on the wall, but I'm wondering how gnome port >> maintainers see this development? We already lost KDE. Are we in >> danger of losing Gnome as well? > >At least general X11 support is still there and for long in UI >toolkits, meaning that we will still be able to use alternatives like >mate, xfce, etc. Let's hope that they don't ditch X11 in Gtk anytime >soon but it does not seem to be planned for Gtk 5 [0]. > >What's questionable is that wayland has still various issues towards >input management: I still can't get any VNC on GNOME, proper input >grabbing in qemu leading me to use X.Org most of the time even outside >of OpenBSD. > >[0]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5004 > >-- >David >