onatinadr...@tutanota.com wrote:

> I have no intention to disable unveil permanently. I was just trying
> to solve a bug.

But it does not solve a bug.

It does not even identify the bugs.

If you really wanted to try to act like a developer, you would grab a
huge piece of disk and ktrace -di the browser.

I have also edited source code to add utrace() calls so I can identify
the chunks of code I am in, when reading the ktrace output.

Disabling unveil and pledge is going to provide you with no insight
you can follow.


 When I saw that it didn't work, I enabled it again.
> Yes, I considered using linux. I give it a go from time to time. It gets
> worse every time. It moves away from unix philosophy. I don't like
> it. If I could, I would use plan9 (joking). OpenBSD does not currently
> support the wifi chip on my laptop and the touchpad freezes after
> a while. But I plug in a dongle and a USB mouse and continue
> using OpenBSD. Thank you all for this great operating system.
> 
> Jan 14, 2023, 18:04 by dera...@openbsd.org:
> 
>  At some point you have to realize two things
> 
>  - the restrictions we added to browsers inside are *intentional*
>  to reduce access outside of their general usage, in particular
>  restrictions inside your home directory
> 
>  - But some libraries and applications you are trying to use are
>  designed to violate those principles *intentionally*, because
>  they are written by people on other operating systems, and they
>  either believe they should have access to everything, or they are
>  written to inadvertently access such things.
> 
>  So these principles are incompatible.
> 
>  Sometimes a middle ground can be reached, but there are so many of these
>  circumstances that it is likely that all the possible use cases will
>  never be satisfied. So it is a huge amount of developer time being
>  spent _for the atypical user_.
> 
>  So, have you considered using Linux instead? And I'm really not joking.
>  I'm very serious. That is a system, like Windows, bending over backwards to
>  ensure that applications can do anything they want inside your home
>  directory.
> 
>  It's so bizzare. You are disabling one type of security to gain what
>  you believe is another type of security, hammering nails you do not know.
> 
>  Do you not sense the dissonance?
> 
>  onatinadr...@tutanota.com wrote:
> 
>  (sorry, I forgot to break lines)
> 
>  ok, I disabled unveil by renaming all unveil* files and creating new files
>  that contain only "# disable". the issue persists though. another hint:
>  libmozav* files in /usr/local/lib/tor-browser have the extension .7.0.
>  those in /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr, have the extension 9.0. maybe
>  that's the reason.
> 
>  Jan 13, 2023, 23:55 by :
> 
>  > ok, I disabled unveil by renaming all unveil* files and creating new files
>  that contain only "# disable". the issue persists though. another hint:
>  libmozav* files in /usr/local/lib/tor-browser have the extension .7.0. those
>  in /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr, have the extension 9.0. maybe that's the
>  reason.
>  >
>  > Jan 13, 2023, 14:26 by s...@spacehopper.org:
>  >
>  >> On 2023/01/13 13:30, onatinadr...@tutanota.com wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> before installing ffmpeg, both tor-browser and firefox-esr play
>  >>> youtube videos with sound. after installing ffmpeg, firefox-esr
>  >>> plays videos on other sites too but tor-browser does not. it
>  >>> shows a warning that I need to install codecs. I wonder if it's
>  >>> an unveil issue. I would try disabling unveil for tor-browser
>  >>> but I couldn't find any documentation on how to disable unveil
>  >>>
>  >>
>  >> Should be same as firefox, but in /etc/tor-browser instead.
>  >>
> 

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