> hey, could you change the display name in your From address?
> that joke was never really funny in the first place (except when
> beck found the wind-up toy).
this is not a joke, Torvalds is right here, in my opinion. i chose obsd not 
because i was thinking about some kind of mythical security(in recent years we 
have all been convinced more than once that little depends on the operating 
system here), but because eighteen years ago obsd turned out to be more sane 
than linux or freebsd(i have don't tried netbsd). but now i would not say so, 
but it has already become a matter of habit, and it is difficult to get rid of 
them. so instead of finding something more sane now, i'm still masturbating on 
obsd. like a monkey.

as for your desire for me to look the way you want, it seems to me that this 
not only does not meet the ideals of individual freedom, but also the latest 
western trends. or do i not understand and this is other thing? but i will do 
it, because my experience of many years shows that in power, in any power, even 
the tiny one that makes it possible to throw out the objectionable from the 
mailing list, there are characters whom i find it difficult to call people, 
they are a fusion of Hitler and Putin, although they see themselves as Jesus 
Christ. and i am absolutely sure that i will not find anything new in this 
regard here. in my half century i have never met an exception. but i am not 
ready to give up obsd, which means that information about obsd will be useful 
to me. after all, who among us does not make deals with his conscience and 
principles for the sake of a warm place?

> building without UPnP is the upstream default. probably could be
> enabled (maybe as a flavour) but I guess none of the people who
> maintained this port had a use for it. also the upnp libraries don't
> have a brilliant track record for security.
i absolutely agree that using miniupnpd in some capacity is not the best idea, 
but what choice do we have if we are sitting behind nat? it is possible to 
manually forward static ports when we have one machine at a permanent address, 
but when there are several of them and an addresses is dynamic?

ps: does the number as a name fit your criteria?

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