Everyone can see you have an agenda.

Please stop being so rude.



max porter <mporter...@outlook.com> wrote:

> If it doesn't represent policy then change the name of the section otherwise 
> it just seems to read as "rules for thee and not for me". This implication 
> also is reinforced by the behavior of developers and comments in this thread.
> 
> I did slightly misspeak about adoption of OpenBSD though which I admit to, 
> but you also didn't read the document. And I quote:
> 
> "The goal is to get all ported applications to support OpenBSD. To achieve 
> this goal, feed patches to support running on OpenBSD back to the application 
> maintainer. (If you are not the port maintainer, check with them first. There 
> may be a reason why they have deliberately not done this)."
> 
> That may not be adoption of the OS but support for it in applications. 
> "Deliberately not done this" should not include they just don't want to, or 
> feel like not following what is supposedly a policy.
> ________________________________
> From: Stuart Henderson <s...@spacehopper.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 9:40 AM
> To: max porter <mporter...@outlook.com>
> Cc: Landry Breuil <lan...@openbsd.org>; ports@openbsd.org <ports@openbsd.org>
> Subject: Re: Patch and policy inquiry
> 
> On 2020/12/11 12:34, max porter wrote:
> > Thanks for the info and your comment is fair.
> >
> > However I would argue the maintainer started it with the tone of his
> > comment, given he may not have known about the noted policy which one
> > could say was source of truth and the thing "telling him what to do".
> >
> > I cannot see that attitude helping to foster adoption of OpenBSD as
> > developers may not use OpenBSD, and would be unaware of changes needed
> > to support it unless packagers notify/assist them rather than keeping
> > patches to themselves.
> 
> OpenBSD is not trying to foster adoption. If it's useful to you then
> great. If not then that's also great, there are plenty of different OS
> to use in different circumstances.
> 
> > To be clear are you implying the policy only applies to some and not
> > all who help with OpenBSD?
> 
> The ports faq sections are an attempt to write-up how things are
> usually done to get new contributors up to speed without asking too
> many questions.
> 
> They do not represent policy. There are some problems with them,
> do not take them as being 100% correct.
> 
> > I will likely not be providing further info on the PR as I don't
> > directly use OpenBSD so have no way to properly validate the
> > changes, hence the mail asking for additional assistance and the
> > note for him in it.
> 
> It doesn't really make sense to open a PR for something which you are
> not involved in and have no way of testing, that is just frustrating
> for everyone involved.
> 

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