On 17 May 2006, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 01:04:00 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On 17 May 2006, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> > > Don't blame us if you don't know how to fit stuff on a disk for an
> > > embedded system.
> >
> > Oh please. How come we're now discussing my abilities?
>
> Because you are the one whining about a problem you made for yourself?
Please read my first message again:
On 17 May 2006, Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is there a reason why Boutell gd has been upgraded to 2.0.33 in
: 3.9? The new version depends on fontconfig, which in turn depends
: on X. Consequently, I now need to install X in order to run pfstat,
: mrtg, and a host of other things that have nothing to do with X. Can
: we please have an option to switch back to gd 1.8.x back?
AFAICT, I was asking why was GD upgraded to a new version and if we
can still keep the old version around. Where's the whining?
FWIW I still haven't got an answer to the first question. I might
have understood something along the lines of: "1.8.x has some deep
problems that were solved in 2.0.x", or "maintaining both 1.8.x and
2.0.x is too much work", or even "nobody cares about 1.8.x any longer".
The answer I got back instead can be understood as either (1) "there's
no reason", or (2) "the reason is way too subtle for your little brain
to go into details." Excellent communicational skills guys, keep up the
good work.
> If you can't figure out how to run a stripped down system then don't
> run a stripped down system. Duh?
I never said I have a problem running a stripped down system. What
I do have a (conceptual) problem with is making a bunch of console
applications dependent on 30 MB of code that never gets run, for no good
reason. Apparently I'm not the only one either:
On 17 May 2006, Michael Coulter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]: wrote:
: from the pfstat-2.0 announcement,
[...]
: Many users complained that they had to install xbase39.tgz on a
: firewall, this is now no longer required.
[...]
Some not so long time ago it used to be possible to run a firewall
from a single floppy. If you don't see anything wrong with going from
that to a system that now includes X, well, there's not much I can do to
explain my point any further.
> > > Of course you could, e.g., remove xlogo, xclock and even xeyes
> > > from your CF if you don't need it on your firewall.
> >
> > What's the point in installing 30 MB of code that never gets
> > run? What are the great advantages of _replacing_ GD 1.8.x with
> > 2.0.x in the first place?
>
> Truecolor images. Support for gifs. Anti-aliased fonts.
Are these relevant to my question? If you still don't get it, what
I'm asking is: what are the disadvantages of keeping both 2.0.x and
1.8.x?
> What are the great disadvantages? You have to download and untar one
> file?
Like I said, aside from the conceptual ones, there aren't any, it's
a bright move.
Anyway, it seems obvious by now that keeping 1.8.x around is not
going to happen, so thanks again for your time.
Regards,
Liviu Daia
--
Dr. Liviu Daia http://www.imar.ro/~daia
