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Today's Topics:
1. do Plymouth conflicts with Fsck? (Paulo Silva)
2. Re: do Plymouth conflicts with Fsck? (Ray Strode)
3. Re: do Plymouth conflicts with Fsck? (Steve Langasek)
4. Re: do Plymouth conflicts with Fsck? (Ray Strode)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:37:37 +0100
From: Paulo Silva <[email protected]>
Subject: do Plymouth conflicts with Fsck?
To: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
hi!
I'm an Ubuntu user since version 4.10, and the last fresh install i
did were at version 6.10, and did upgrades since then.
when i upgraded Ubuntu to version 10.4, i realised some issues:
1. Fsck, when we boot Ubuntu in text mode, stopped to work properly,
which means that so useful and important progress bar of filesystems
checking, simply disapeared, making us imagine that the boot process
hanged or crashed, forcing us to restart the machine, and consequently
getting the risk on damaging the hard disks involved.
2. Usplash were replaced with Plymouth. I had Usplash disabled from
the StartupManager tool, and so, when the Ubuntu upgrade replaced
Usplash with Plymouth on my back, i didn't realize that happened,
since Plymouth kept disabled as i wished Usplash as well.
3. When i ask online about this Fsck issue, the answers i normally get
were this has a direct relation with the Plymouth, what makes me think
that: Plymouth is somehow conflicting with Fsck, or Plymouth disabled
some very important configuration file items that Fsck used.
4. Some answers i got about this lack of Fsck progress bar in the 10.4
upgrade were a design option from Ubuntu. For me it's more misdesign
than design...
5. From people have Plymouth defaultly turned on, there seems to be no
key combination for reaching the boot in text mode, specially when the
boot process took too long, and we don't know exactly what is
happening. Is the only possible key combination in this situation
alt+sysrq+b ?
thanks in advance for any reply or feedback of these questions, which
i am very concerned about - i wanted to have my hard disks working
fine for some more years...... :/
cheers,
Paulo
--
Don't give Microsoft the remote control. Don't use Windows 7.
<http://windows7sins.org>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:13:09 -0400
From: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: do Plymouth conflicts with Fsck?
To: Paulo Silva <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi,
> I'm an Ubuntu user since version 4.10, and the last fresh install i
> did were at version 6.10, and did upgrades since then.
>
> when i upgraded Ubuntu to version 10.4, i realised some issues:
> 1. Fsck, when we boot Ubuntu in text mode, stopped to work properly,
> which means that so useful and important progress bar of filesystems
> checking, simply disapeared, making us imagine that the boot process
> hanged or crashed, forcing us to restart the machine, and consequently
> getting the risk on damaging the hard disks involved.
I think there's a report on launchpad where it talks about some fsck /
plymouth interaction issue. Something to do with tons of identical
progress updates getting sent in at the same time confusing it. I'm
not completely sure.
Some one put a patch here which was written to work around the problem
(which presumably you're already using):
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28548
> 2. Usplash were replaced with Plymouth. I had Usplash disabled from
> the StartupManager tool, and so, when the Ubuntu upgrade replaced
> Usplash with Plymouth on my back, i didn't realize that happened,
> since Plymouth kept disabled as i wished Usplash as well.
That's a downstream integration question.
In general, though if you take "splash" off the kernel command line
then the splash screen will go away.
> 3. When i ask online about this Fsck issue, the answers i normally get
> were this has a direct relation with the Plymouth, what makes me think
> that: Plymouth is somehow conflicting with Fsck, or Plymouth disabled
> some very important configuration file items that Fsck used.
I think it's actually a bug triggered by the integration between fsck
and plymouth than ubuntu does, not a direct conflict between fsck and
plymouth. I don't use or work on ubuntu, though, so it's a little
hard for me to know, though.
> 4. Some answers i got about this lack of Fsck progress bar in the 10.4
> upgrade were a design option from Ubuntu. For me it's more misdesign
> than design...
I don't know anything about that.
> 5. From people have Plymouth defaultly turned on, there seems to be no
> key combination for reaching the boot in text mode, specially when the
> boot process took too long, and we don't know exactly what is
> happening. Is the only possible key combination in this situation
> alt+sysrq+b ?
The escape key should work to toggle between the splash and text messages.
--Ray
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:38:30 -0700
From: Steve Langasek <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: do Plymouth conflicts with Fsck?
To: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:13:09AM -0400, Ray Strode wrote:
> > 3. When i ask online about this Fsck issue, the answers i normally get
> > were this has a direct relation with the Plymouth, what makes me think
> > that: Plymouth is somehow conflicting with Fsck, or Plymouth disabled
> > some very important configuration file items that Fsck used.
> I think it's actually a bug triggered by the integration between fsck
> and plymouth than ubuntu does, not a direct conflict between fsck and
> plymouth. I don't use or work on ubuntu, though, so it's a little
> hard for me to know, though.
Here is Paulo's bug report in launchpad, for reference:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/599555
He's essentially requesting a non-trivial new feature for the plymouth text
theme. We aren't going to just echo fsck output to the terminal - this
would be an unreadable mess because disks are fscked in parallel.
Paulo hasn't acknowledged my reply to his bug report, so I don't see why
he's repeating the same questions here.
--
Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:14:36 -0400
From: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: do Plymouth conflicts with Fsck?
To: Steve Langasek <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
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Hi,
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Steve Langasek
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Here is Paulo's bug report in launchpad, for reference:
>
> ?https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/599555
>
> He's essentially requesting a non-trivial new feature for the plymouth text
> theme. ?We aren't going to just echo fsck output to the terminal - this
> would be an unreadable mess because disks are fscked in parallel.
>
> Paulo hasn't acknowledged my reply to his bug report, so I don't see why
> he's repeating the same questions here.
Interesting. Thanks.
--Ray
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