Richard,
I watched the 5 devices compared.  The only one that meets your
requirements is the Noodle Pi.  It is available fully assembled, and is, I
believe, current production.  The other 4 devices are either

   1. ancient (2 of them)
   2. a cell phone (unacceptable)
   3. out of production



On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:17 AM Richard Owlett <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/15/2018 09:10 AM, Johnathan Mantey wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > I viewed one of the links I provided in the "old devices" thread, related
> > to this one.  It seems based on what I just read that the *Noodle Pi* may
> > be very close to your list of requirements.
>
> Mea Culpa.
> I investigated Raspberry Pi about a year ago. If I had wanted to do an
> engineering prototype it was computationally suitable. But too much
> assembly was required and a useful case required access to a 3-D printer.
>
> I thought the Noodle Pi was one of those projects "available real soon"
> having the problems listed above. Your post prompted a search yielding
> [
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hash42/noodle-pi-the-complete-raspberry-pi-pocket-compute].
>
> *NICE*!!! He may be prophet &/or mind-reader ;} The designer obviously
> has more real world real world experience than demonstrated by most of
> the crowd funded projects I looked at.
>
> I haven't followed enough links to find if the assembled version has off
> the shelf retail availability. If not, it is likely worth waiting for.
>
> Thank you for persistence.
>
> > I also sent another link, which I have not viewed, comparing 5 different
> > handheld devices (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNllO79_68)
>
> I have a low data cap so I routinely don't follow youtube links.
> >
> > You hadn't commented on the info provided, so I wanted to add it to this
> > thread.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 6:32 AM Richard Owlett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/13/2018 07:46 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 1:26 PM Richard Owlett <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I know I have *WEIRD* preferences.
> >>>>
> >>>> How should I pose questions in a manner that they would be taken
> >>>>     _ *EXTREMELY LITERALLY* _?
> >>>
> >>> You should pose it knowing that you may get answers that don't fit
> >>> perfectly. You are responsible for wading through the responses and
> >>> extracting the value you can. They may be the best answers available
> >>> from the people you are asking. Learn to live with that.
> >>>
> >>
> >> ROFL? Don't know if I should laugh, cry, groan, or inspire a SNL skit ;}
> >> Been "living with 'it' " for ~half a century :}
> >> Who? Me? Strange world view? <snicker>
> >>
> >> More seriously, compared to other fora this one has a better track
> >> record of answering the questions actually asked rather than the
> >> question that some wished I had asked.
> >>
> >> You have to see the humor of this thread.
> >>
> >> 1. I state I'm interested in current production.
> >>      It is suggested I buy decade old units on ebay.
> >>      Some came closer by mentioning things that barely made it out of
> >>      a crowd funding phase before ceasing production.
> >>
> >> 2. I specify *"physical form factor similar to a Palm Pilot"* and
> >>      having USB connectivity.
> >>      I can't have that as USB did not exist in Palm Pilot era.
> >>
> >> 3. I specify a "Linux device" and " *NOT* be shipped with Android OS".
> >>      I'm told that is unreasonable as ~"everybody uses Android".
> >>      [One person did point to a device shipped with Linux dual booted.
> It
> >>       meets my underlying requirement on not having to deal with
> Android.
> >>       It is unclear if it has yet entered production &/or ships with my
> >>       preferred mix of options. I'm tracking it.]
> >>
> >> I've had requests for justification of some of my specifications.
> >>
> >> My physical environment strongly influences my choices:
> >>     1. due to >70 years of wear-n-tear my doctor would like data.
> >>     2. pen and paper is non-viable.
> >>     3. I'm on an exercise program which would benefit from records.
> >>     4. walking with a pair of forearm crutches which introduces
> >>        portability issues.
> >>
> >> I specify Linux for choice of installing only relevant software
> >> and is easily customized - in my case by Tcl/Tk scripts.
> >>
> >> Android is not acceptable due to personal experience. A few years ago
> >> Lenovo had a cell phone available in three configurations:
> >>     1. with sim card and a cell phone carrier.
> >>     2. with no sim card installed making cell connectivity optional.
> >>     3. *without* possibility of installing a sim card.
> >> I bought one of the later discovering:
> >>     1. primary source of _free software_ was Google who required an
> >>        unacceptable amount of personal info for "free" software.
> >>     2. it placed unreasonable barriers to installing a preferred OS.
> >>
> >> I referenced Palm Pilot due to it's form factor and capabilities:
> >>     1. nominal size 6" x 4" x 1" would be good - thinner better.
> >>     2. as an example of minimal capabilities.
> >>
> >> Cell connectivity serves no useful purpose and gives manufacturers
> >> unreasonable justifications for restrictions on user modifications
> >> to their personal property. Current discussion of E911 connectivity
> >> requirements without a sim card points out possible undesirable
> >> unintended side effects of unintentional 911 calls.
> >> unreasonable range.
> >>
> >> Specifying availability from U.S. retail vendor handles some personal
> >> preferences.
> >>
> >> A long winded post. But ... ;/
> >>
> >> Owl ducks fer cover.
>
>
>
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