I do everything in vim. .bashrc, hosts, postfix main.cf, dovecot,
ssh_config, sshd_config, vimrc, nginx.conf, bash-completion, ufw user.rules
(which is a bit of a pain)... I do all that stuff in ascii. Even desktop
launchers, lightdm, and panel settings where can. -gbk

On Fri, Aug 7, 2026, 10:52 PM Keith Lofstrom <[email protected]> wrote:

> When I asked, my rimuhosting hosting provider (in New Zealand)
> offered to update my debian-based virtual server and websites
> hosted there for a few $K.  Excellent; in Portland a good
> sysadmin costs $K per day.
>
> Then they started talking about the "virtualmin" GUI interface
> to control those apps (apache, moinmoin, sendmail, openvpn,
> etc.), as opposed to commented /etc/ config files updated with
> vi (and old versions of files saved with rev numbers), which
> I've used since SVR4 roamed the Earth.
>
> How many here control their servers with "invisible" config
> files generated by GUI interfaces?  Without commented text
> files, how do you *verify* WYSIWYG?
>
> How many prefer editing configuration files (mostly in /etc),
> paying attention to file permissions, adding explanatory
> comments, and backing up their prior config files since
> forever, as I've done for decades?
>
> Keith L.
>
> PS:  I have been a sloppy touch typist for more than 60
> years, when an insolvent client of my father taught me
> typewriter typing in her classes to pay down part of her
> debt.  Weak small kid, mechanical typewriters, the phrase
> "touch typing" wasn't accurate.  These days, I'm OK with
> a mouse, but not a touch screen.  My most frequently used
> key is backspace, used about 60 times while writing this
> paragraph.   GUIs are difficult, screen phones impossible.
>
> Are text-heads like me doomed?
>
> --
> Keith Lofstrom          [email protected]
>

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