> This is somewhat frustrating. I'm trying to setup Thunderbird to connect to
> gmail to pull down my messages. I'm attempting to do it through IMAP. I
> followed the instructions from here:
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=77662
>
> Only problem is I get a timeout to imap.gmail.com. Every time. I can ping
> imap.gmail.com without problems. I can telnet to port 993, It doesn't appear
> to be network issues.
>
> I created an imap log file from following these instructions:
> http://www-archive.mozilla.org/quality/mailnews/mail-troubleshoot.html#imap
>
> but the file is zero bytes. Wireshark shows the packets going across, and
> there aren't any errors. It seems there is some kind of problme with
> thunderbird.
>
> Anybody see any problems connecting thunderbird to imap under ubuntu?
> Anybody have suggestions on where to go next?

here is how to test ssl connections:

create a file with the following contents:

client = yes
output = /dev/tty
connect = imap.gmail.com:imaps

then run:
stunnel NAME-OF-FILE

you should see a standard imap header come back.  if not, then you have 
something interfering with the imaps traffic.  i can get a connection from 
my system using the above technique.
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