--- Francisco Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi�: > > > > >From: Drew Northup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Working with students as part of a > class [plex86] > >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:06:30 -0400 > > > > > > > >"Dr. Yasha Karant" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:06:11AM -0500, Jos? > Enrique Alvarez Estrada > >wrote: > > > > > --- Joaquim Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escribi?: > > > [snip] > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > I do not care if the person who is "leading" a > project be a professor, > > > a PostDoc, a Grad Student, an undergrad, or a 5 > year old. I do care > >that > > > the person understands the basic computer > science involved (and not > > > just as a technician/programmer/coder but as a > computer scientist or > > > informatician depending whether the discipline > is Computer Science or > > > Informatics in the region in which the work is > being done -- naming > > > nomenclature only). I know colleagues who are > outstanding computer > > > science theoreticians, and whom I would not let > near a real software > > > engineering project. > > > >I'm an engineer. I just happen to do > computers--and have for about 14 > >of my 21 (soon to be 22) years. I'm getting a > degree in Computer > >Engineering too--as if that matters when it comes > to managing a > >project. > > Me too, but I�m one year elder. I thought you were > elder than me!. > > What is really important is that the leader: > > > >Be zealos about the continuance of the project > >Be courteous to other project members > >Be able to commit a great deal of time to things > other than actual > >project work that will help sustain the project > >Be sure of what needs to be done, when, and how > >Be capable of division of labor and organization (I > may not be able to > >clean my room some days, but on those days I > certainly can manage to > >tell other people what needs to get done) > >Be committed to quality work--not quantity; as an > engineer I care more > >how well it works than how many we made > >Be able to set valid and useful goals > >Be persistant > > > > > They may indeed be students and/or amateurs by > any legal definition; > > > functionally, they must be experienced > professionals. That > > > was one of the major shortcomings of Linux > versus BSD -- Linux started > > > as a very amateur effort, whereas BSD from the > beginning was done by > > > professionals. > > > >I agree about professionalism. Unfortunately that > isn't something that > >you can get a degree it. It just happens to some > people--and not to > >others. It is very much like the force--but > instead of just Anakin, we > >all have it if we wish to make ourselves try to > find it. > > > >One man I have worked with in the past once gave a > speech on Respect & > >Responsibility--the only two rules that you need in > life. You will find > >that this is true. They are the definition of > professionalism. Once > >you have that you just need some idea as to what > you are doing. > > > >I don't want to boast, chide, or anything of the > like--but that is the > >reason why Kevin let me take over this project. I > aspire to the rules > >of Respect and Responsibility--and I hope that > others here feel the same > >about their basic essence that I do. > > > >Lets get coding, debugging, and working as a > group--PLEASE! > > I don�t use to write very much, but as you must know > yet, I�m with you. I�m > sorry because of my rare interventions but I don�t > have got a regular > connection to the Internet. > > In Spanish: No suelo escribir mucho, pero como ya > debes saber, estoy > contigo. Siento que mis intervenciones sean pocas > pero no tengo conexi�n > regular a la Internet.
Hola, Francisco y dem�s usuarios de la lista en espa�ol: Mi nombre es Jos� Enrique Alvarez Estrada, soy profesor de la Universidad Aut�noma del Carmen, en Cd. del Carmen, Campeche, M�xico. Llevo alg�n tiempo en la lista de discusi�n de plex86 porque estoy escribiendo un libro sobre m�quinas virtuales y emuladores, y quiero dedicar un cap�tulo a Bochs y otro a Plex86. Me da gusto saber que hay otros hispanoparlantes por ac�. Por cierto, si les resulta �til, traduje al espa�ol la "Gu�a Interna de Plex86" de Kevin Lawton. Pronto la tendr� en mi sitio Web. Saludos a todos Jos� Enrique ICQ: 31463788 Yahoo! Messenger: leonardo_da_vinci_mx www.geocities.com/leonardo_da_vinci_mx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? La emoci�n e intensidad del deporte en Yahoo! Deportes. http://deportes.yahoo.com.mx
