Hello everyone! This is first meeting of year 2019, happy new year!
Sho_: What I'd like to hear from everyone today and/or discuss, though: (not dictating, just suggesting:) * What's everyone looking at working on in January * What's currently in flight * What really needs to get done for 5.15 * Forth and back on helping reviews to get the above done we have the 5.15 release freeze approaching fast on Jan 17th, and I'm aware of several things we still need to get done d_ed: - I finished XdgDecoration support \o/ Riddell: - 5.14.5 is tomorrow! last chance to fix 5.14 issues - beta is in 10 days time as discussed, I'll start a notepad for features today for the announce please add features - and significant bug fixes - for the beta I'll do what we discussed some month ago and get the neon dev-stable edition announced as a way to test it. I might even rename dev-stable edition to beta for the occation - and I'll ask around for making a video - oh and fosdem - I'll write up some spiel about 5.15 for fosdem, and talk about beta and forthcoming release - if you're going please sign up here https://community.kde.org/Promo/Events/FOSDEM/2019 - and in frameworks I need to look at a kdesu patch - that's all Overall, Notes are bit bare because meeting was mostly huge discussion, please read log for important links and diffs to review -- Bhushan Shah http://blog.bshah.in IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode GPG key fingerprint : 0AAC 775B B643 7A8D 9AF7 A3AC FE07 8411 7FBC E11D
16:30 <bshah> meeting! 16:31 <bshah> Sho_: d_ed: fvogt: 16:31 <Sho_> romangg 16:31 <Sho_> notmart is at a bank or something 16:32 <bshah> Riddell: helo 16:32 <Riddell> ook 16:33 <bshah> well, so I have Sho_ and Riddell and me in list 16:33 <bshah> Sho_: you can start :) 16:34 <Sho_> d_ed is on the way, he just told me 16:34 <d_ed> yo 16:34 <Sho_> I've done, uh, nothing because of the holidays, except push a patch that allowed Bhushan to move the translations KCM to p-w 16:34 <Riddell> happy new year Sho_ d_ed 16:34 <Sho_> What I'd like to hear from everyone today and/or discuss, though: 16:35 <Sho_> (not dictating, just suggesting:) 16:35 <Sho_> * What's everyone looking at working on in January 16:35 <Sho_> * What's currently in flight 16:35 <Sho_> * What really needs to get done for 5.15 16:35 <Sho_> * Forth and back on helping reviews to get the above done 16:35 <Sho_> we have the 5.15 release freeze approaching fast on Jan 17th, and I'm aware of several things we still need to get done 16:36 <Sho_> for example on the Phab task for the Wayland vitual desktops, there's a short bullet list of TODOs what *need* addressing for 5.15, including a patch by Marco that's in the queue 16:36 <Sho_> Otherwise we still can't announce the feature as supported in 5.15 16:36 <Sho_> And Bhushan had something, too 16:36 <Sho_> next() 16:37 <d_ed> I finished XdgDecoration support \o/ 16:37 <d_ed> seems to have all gone quite smoothly 16:37 <Sho_> (i.e. what I plan to be working on: when marco's patch is in, write the libtm/applet stuff to use it) 16:37 <Sho_> nice :) 16:37 <d_ed> I thought that all your libtm for virtual desktops was done already? 16:37 <Sho_> hang on, i'll get the link 16:37 <d_ed> ok 16:38 <Sho_> d_ed: https://phabricator.kde.org/T4457#170449 16:38 <sKreamer> Task 4457 "[kwayland] Virtual Desktop protocol" [Open,High] {Plasma} https://phabricator.kde.org/T4457 16:38 <Sho_> d_ed: tl;dr the biggest problem is that the Wayland protocol has absolutely no support for the number of rows, so the pager still can't do the layout correctly 16:38 <Sho_> Marco has a patch up 16:39 <Sho_> for the animation setting todo there I wrote https://phabricator.kde.org/D17700 but abandoned it for the reasons stated there 16:39 <sKreamer> Diff 17700 "[kcmkwin/desktop] Add back switching animation setting" [Abandoned] https://phabricator.kde.org/D17700 16:41 <Sho_> https://phabricator.kde.org/D17265 isn't merged yet, which means the KCM is kinda broken 16:41 <sKreamer> Diff 17265 "Fix changing the number of rows via the dbus protocol" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D17265 16:41 <d_ed> the marco patch has all my comments addressed, but there's one minor thing with a comment from martin on line 610 16:41 <Sho_> note these are two different patches btw 16:42 <Sho_> there's the one you just meant which is the one fixing the KCM and stuff 16:42 <Sho_> but there's another one somewhere extending the protocol 16:42 <d_ed> oh right 16:42 <Sho_> which I can't find atm, but I know he wrote it 16:43 <Sho_> on D17700 I think the patch is usable as-is and I'm fine with someone deciding to commit it in my stead 16:43 <sKreamer> Diff 17700 "[kcmkwin/desktop] Add back switching animation setting" [Abandoned] https://phabricator.kde.org/D17700 16:44 <Sho_> bshah: you had something for KWin too? 16:44 <bshah> not for 5.15 well surely :) 16:44 <Sho_> You don't want the dmabuf stuff in 5.15? 16:44 <bshah> I wanted to basically ask for another set of eyes on dmabuf patches which are dormant 16:44 <Sho_> (I know nothing about the status) 16:45 <bshah> I don't think it will be possible since it have framework patch as well 16:45 <Sho_> ah 16:46 <Sho_> bshah, d_ed: you know now what I & Marco need help with getting through review (Marco's two patches, and then my dependent, yet-to-be-written follow-ups, which will be tight to the deadline) -- is there anything *you* need help getting reviewed before the 17th? 16:46 <Sho_> as well as any other topic we're not thinking of? 16:46 <Sho_> I think we need to get the VDG in here next week to poll them in a similar fashion BTW 16:46 <bshah> From my side none, no 16:46 <Sho_> (I'd ask Nate now, but I know he's dying on an airport somewhere as we speak) 16:47 <d_ed> I only have one kwin patch I want in 16:48 <bshah> (maybe not dying, ngraham was just active in #kde-devel :) ) 16:48 <Sho_> figuratively :P 16:48 <ngraham> I had a muffin so I'm running on sugar right now 16:49 <Sho_> yay 16:49 <Sho_> ngraham: I'm in the mode of trying to avoid freezing and doing a beta and realizing we all forgot about something because the holidays took us out of things 16:49 <Sho_> is there's anything wippy the VDG is doing that needs massaging to get done in time? 16:49 <Sho_> (we've had situations of trying to do releases amidst major theme rewrites and stuff like that ...) 16:50 <Riddell> is there a new wallpaper? :) 16:50 <Sho_> ^ good point :) 16:50 <ngraham> Sho_: vlad redid the animation combobox patch in another way so hopefully we can get that in for 5.15 16:50 <Sho_> d_ed: which patch BTW, anything I'm smart enough to help with? 16:50 <Sho_> ngraham: ah, I didn't see the new version yet 16:51 <ngraham> https://phabricator.kde.org/D17765 and https://phabricator.kde.org/D17766 16:51 <sKreamer> Diff 17765 "[kcmkwin] Move effects model into a shared library" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D17765 16:51 <sKreamer> Diff 17766 "[kcmkwin/desktop] Add animation option back" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D17766 16:52 <ngraham> VDG-stuff-wise, there's my login screen change which proved controversial of course: https://phabricator.kde.org/D16031 16:52 <sKreamer> Diff 16031 "[SDDM theme] remove blur and increase UI contrast so that it's not required" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D16031 16:52 <ngraham> the discussion kind of petered out after everyone got exhausted 16:52 <ngraham> one big thing I'd really like to get done for 5.15 is the wallpaper overhaul: https://phabricator.kde.org/T10269 16:52 <sKreamer> Task 10269 "Improve wallpapers" [Open,Needs Triage] {Plasma,VDG} https://phabricator.kde.org/T10269 16:53 <ngraham> Currently there's a technical discussion in https://phabricator.kde.org/D18005 that could use some more of the seasoned Plasma folks to chime in 16:53 <sKreamer> Diff 18005 "Include only the largest size for each wallpaper" [Accepted] https://phabricator.kde.org/D18005 16:54 <* Sho_ sets a bookmark for some time this week 16:55 <ngraham> cool, thanks! 16:55 <ngraham> we have a couple of VDG guys who are super enthusiastic and have both aesthetic and technical abilities and I want to help them get stuck in as much as possible 16:55 <Sho_> what can we do to help? 16:55 <ngraham> these guys have like limitless energy and it's a pretty amazing opportunity for us IMO 16:56 <ngraham> Basically whenever #plasma gets pinged in a VDG ticket, try to answer technical or historical questions that have arisen there 16:57 <Sho_> Ok 16:58 <Sho_> Riddell, you got anything? 16:59 <Sho_> Seems other than d_ed being shy about that patch link we're wrapped up :) 16:59 <Riddell> hi 16:59 <bshah> guess not :P 16:59 <d_ed> Sho_: D17247 16:59 <sKreamer> Diff 17247 "Cleanup virutal desktops in deleted" [Needs Review] https://phabricator.kde.org/D17247 16:59 <Riddell> 5.14.5 is tomorrow! last chance to fix 5.14 issues 17:00 <Riddell> beta is in 10 days time as discussed, I'll start a notepad for features today for the announce please add features 17:00 <Riddell> and significant bug fixes 17:00 <d_ed> it seems a purely hypothetical case, but it has a dangy pointer nonetheless 17:01 <Riddell> for the beta I'll do what we discussed some month ago and get the neon dev-stable edition announced as a way to test it. I might even rename dev-stable edition to beta for the occation 17:02 <Riddell> and I'll ask around for making a video 17:03 <Riddell> oh and fosdem 17:03 <Sho_> d_ed: xdg-decoration is merged already? 17:03 <Riddell> I'll write up some spiel about 5.15 for fosdem, and talk about beta and forthcoming release 17:03 <Riddell> if you're going please sign up here https://community.kde.org/Promo/Events/FOSDEM/2019 17:04 <Riddell> and in frameworks I need to look at a kdesu patch 17:04 <Riddell> that's all 17:05 <Sho_> Ok, other than the Wayland VD stuff it looks like nothing is burning too badly then 17:07 <d_ed> merged already 17:07 <d_ed> just before the frameworks freeze 17:07 <Sho_> cool 17:07 <Sho_> I think I have a bunch of open bug tickets somewhere, too 17:08 <ngraham> plasma bugs could use some triaging 17:08 <ngraham> they piled up a bit over the holidays 17:08 <Sho_> yeah 17:08 <Riddell> oh yes remember frameworks 5.54 is now tagged and tarred which is the version we'll dep on for plasma 5.15 17:08 <Sho_> hopefully by mid-week I'm done writing the 2019 eV budget plan (d_ed: there's a FWG meeting in your future :P) and can do some bugzilla work 17:09 <ngraham> BTE d_ed if at any time you can give me a hand with https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402930, that would be much appreciated 17:09 <sKreamer> KDE bug 402930 in systemsettings (kcm_sddm) "After you use the image picker to change the background image, your chosen image appears in the picker, but disappears if you navigate away from the KCM and then go back" [normal,] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402930 17:11 <Sho_> bshah: Are you declaring the meeting over then? 17:11 <ngraham> of course by BTE I mean BTW 17:12 <bshah> Sho_: sure. I will send notes in bit 17:13 <Sho_> thx!
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