I find it very constructive in the discussion that everyone speaks its mind in order to understand better what we are trying to accomplish here. Based on that I think that there are some goals that almost all agree.
G1: Simplify the Activities/VDs infrastructure for kwin and plasma desktop in order to improve its maintenability G2: Support workflows for groups A and B G3: Improve the UI that Activities/VDs (MERGE) are presented to users Based on G1-3 I think that we can see wayland as opportunity and not as burden and improve the Activities/VDs area ---- Goals that are still communicated without reaching a "We all agree" state: *G4: Support group C and not make them feel as a second citizen in Plasma in comparison with groups A and B ---- 2018-07-13 22:59 GMT+03:00 Marco Martin <notm...@gmail.com>: > so there would be some desktops fused with an activity some not. > the association could be 1:1 or m:n.. tough i see m:n would risk to > gather again a very confusing ui > > Marco and Nate, concerning the UI approach I have in my mind the following Group A: - a. Pager should work as now - b. VDs switching/handling (small view), needs probably something like the Activity Switcher - c. VDs switching/handling (big view), Present Desktops kwin effect is really nice Group B: - a. Pager should work as now - b. Activities switching/handling(small view), I think the current Activity Switcher is just fine - c. Activities switching/handling (big view), Present Activities kwin effect would be really rice Group C: - a. Pager, probably the user just needs to choose between A and B - b. Activities/VDs switching handling (small view): maybe just a column like the Activity Switcher is doing - c. Activities/VDs switching handling (big view): There is already work on this :) from WorkFlow project in Plasma 4 era.... Mockup: http://i.imgur.com/uO1KYl.jpg Implementation: http://i.imgur.com/1Z01D.jpg Article that justifies the mockup: https://psifidotos.blogspot.com/2012/03/activities-and-workareas-draft.html There is a chance that b(s) for all groups can be the same UI that changes accordingly and c(s) the same kwin effect, there also some work on this area from : https://github.com/ajoshpratt/kwinOverview