hein added a comment.

  > That's disappointing to hear and a bit frustrating considering that it 
never came up in the Bugzilla ticket I filed months 3 ago
  
  I've never seen that ticket because it was filed against the wrong component 
and I wasn't CC'd on it. Making sure the relevant maintainer is in the loop is 
a good way to get feedback early and avoid frustration.
  
  > the patch was approved by one Plasma developer
  
  This should be a lesson that a random "code looks good" accept doesn't always 
get patches in. If you don't have that expectation it also helps with 
frustration.
  
  > In my bug triaging and online user support, I encounter many people being 
confused by the distinction between panel launchers and pinned Task Manager 
icons.
  
  Good, we should fix that. Not by taking features away people many like and 
rely on, though. And I know they do, because I too have interacted with users 
over the many years I've worked on the related features. Many users don't like 
launchers that disappear when launched because it conflates two things they 
regard as unrelated. This is e.g. why the Quick Launch applet is popular, too, 
because a lot of people don't realize there's "Add to Panel" and think Quick 
Launch is the only way to get this behavior.
  
  A possible way forward would be a combo of this patch and a new "Always show" 
checkbox for TM launchers, but without some more work this means one additional 
setup step for people who want persistent launchers. TM launchers also have 
more constrains placed on them on where on the panel you can move them, which 
is also a problem this wouldn't fix. I'm therefore not really happy with this 
proposal. I guess it needs more discussion and thought.

REPOSITORY
  R119 Plasma Desktop

REVISION DETAIL
  https://phabricator.kde.org/D12969

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