Am 2017-06-12 01:19, schrieb Aleix Pol:
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Jonathan Riddell <j...@jriddell.org> wrote:

Yay, I like it.

Across different operating systems? We don't do anything on Windows or Mac.

Jonathan


On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:40:28AM +0200, Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Time to get back to the vision.

---- Plasma Vision 2 ----

Plasma Desktop is a cross device work environment where total trust is put on
the user's capacity to best define her own workflow and preferences.

Plasma is simple by default, a clean work area for real world usage which
intends to stay out of your way.
Plasma is powerful when needed, enabling the user to create the workflows that
make her more effective to complete her tasks.

Plasma never dictates the user's needs, it only strives to solve them. Plasma never defines what the user should be allowed to do, it only ensures that she
can.

Our motivation is that we enable actual work to happen, across devices, across
different operating systems, using any application needed.

We build to be durable, we create to be usable, we design to be interesting.

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Reasoning behind the vision:
The key aspects of it is that Plasma is "Cross Device" - we state that as clearly as possible. "Simple by default, powerful when needed" has to be repeated within it to hammer that in as that is, in many ways a communicative
tool we really want associated with Plasma.

Removed Desktop Environment after last one as that was seen as too much
"computer" and too little "Mobile" etc.

The focus is "work" and "tasks", IRL stuff focusing on a user that needs to solve an actual problem instead of an attempt to create further ones through complexity. At the same time we want to ensure that we never strip the user of options (this is one of the weak points in the vision - more on that below)

Finally its the poetic vitruvian line at the end: Firmitas, Utilitas,
Venustatis. That something is "well built" or "durable", that something is "usable" (from a users perspective easy to use) and finally "beautiful" or interesting to use - inspiring usage. Build/Create/Design is intended not as work roles ("designer" etc) but something we all do ("designing the system"
for example).

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Feedback, spellchecking, grammar checking and just "yay" or "neigh" wanted.

/Jens

Plasma Desktop doesn't work on Windows/OS X, but we know our users
will be using different systems on different machines: maybe Android
or iOS on the phone, maybe OS X or Windows at work or at home.
When developing Plasma we need to keep that in mind and leverage it.

Nevertheless we shouldn't give users hope of having Plasma available on Windows, OSX or iOS. Even for Android it does not look like any part of Plasma could be available anytime soon.

Given that I'm also very uneasy with the formulation of operating systems. Personally I would like to not see operating systems mentioned in the vision. Personally - as most know - I wouldn't mind if we would only support Linux (and maybe, maybe the BSDs). Given that at least for me this part of the vision is not fitting and nothing I strive for with my work.

Cheers
Martin

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