Hi Thomas, thank you for your detailed email! I have added the Plasma mailing list, hoping that somebody on that list can provide feedback, which is probably relevant for others on the enterprise list as well (so please make sure you reply to all, dear Plasma devs :) ). Thanks, Thomas
On Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2016 23:25:27 CEST Mag. Weissel Thomas wrote: hello everybody, i'm on my way to deploy about 40 classroom installations of kubuntu/neon with plasma5.6 and so far my first testsuspects (15 students) were amazed by the new plasma5 especially the handling of widgets (long press to configure) and the possibilty to undo changes (for example removing the main panel) saves a lot of lifes :) (and of course the new looks) for the classrooms i strongly depend on the #kiosk framework.. i've played around with it in kde4 and managed to lock down the classroom desktops as much as possible (the prove that this was a success is one school year without any support calls that relate to the user interface) here a small list of what i've done so far: i created a file called "kdeglobals" and placed it in /etc/kde4 -- this directory was read first and userconfigurations read later were ignored [KDE Action Restrictions][$i] movable_toolbars=false run_command=false #disable krunner action/run_command=false #hide action in kontextmenu action/lock_screen=false #hide action screenlock in kontextmenu action/movable_toolbars=false #very important !! action/logout=false action/kwin_rmb=false action/options_configure_keybinding=false action/fullscreen=false #just in case someone doesn't know how to get outathere plasma-desktop/add_activities=false #not working? plasma/containment_actions=false plasma/containment_context_menu=false plasma/allow_configure_when_locked=false plasma/plasma-desktop/unlockedDesktop=false since the /etc/kde4 directory is gone.. WHERE should i put this file ?? ----------- echo "disabling rightclick on desktop containment" echo -e "$(sed '/RightButton/d' /home/student/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc)" > /home/student/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc this config file has moved to ~/.config and was renamed to "plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc" (seriously???) ----------- echo "locking desktop...." sudo echo -e "[\$i]\n $(cat /home/student/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc)" > /etc/kde4/plasma-desktop-appletsrc well..first of all the directory /etc/kde4 does not exist anymore.. creating it and placing a kde configfile in it in order to override the userconfig files is not working anymore further placing [$i] at the beginning of the file (which should make everything immutable) leads to a blank desktop -- only the panel containment is there.. everything else is gone.. ------------------- sudo echo -e "[\$i]\n $(cat /home/student/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc)" > /etc/kde4/plasma-desktoprc echo -e "[\$i]\n $(cat /home/student/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc)" > /home/student/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc this file was renamed to plasmashellrc and moved to ~/.config ------------------- echo "removing cashew..." sudo chmod 600 /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_toolbox_desktoptoolbox.so sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/kmenuedit in kde4 this was the only way to get rid of the cashew.. and dissalow editing the menu ------------------ then i removed almost all keyboardshortcuts and kwin titlebar actions resulting in a totally locked down desktop... the only thing that could revive the desktop was a little script (password protected) "unlock desktop" that would delete the content of /etc/kde4 get the backups of the configuration files the "lockdesktop" script created and copy them over the locked files.. killall Xorg will then do the rest.. ________ so here i am.. i already invested hours to find out what the #kiosk framework can do and can not do.. and now i need to start over it seems. there is a website https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction and this site is so totally out of date - it hurts... also there was a kiosk admin tool in kde3.. wonderful.. could someone please revive this?? WHAT WORKS SO FAR: ################## placing [$i] at the end of a section in plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc like [ActionPlugins][0][$i] MidButton;NoModifier=org.kde.paste RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu wheel:Vertical;NoModifier=org.kde.switchdesktop will change the whole section (after a restart of the desktop) to this : [ActionPlugins][0] MidButton;NoModifier[$i]=org.kde.paste RightButton;NoModifier[$i]=org.kde.contextmenu wheel:Vertical;NoModifier[$i]=org.kde.switchdesktop you will still be able to configure everything for the session but the next time you log in the setting will be undone.. (not quite what i wanted but still usable) i didn't try it for all sections of course.. but for this section it works.. [Containments][1][Applets][21] you may change "favorites" but it will revert back after a new login .. so again.. it would be better to not be able to change anything but not saving the changes works too.. [Containments][1] (the panel) set "immutability" to 2 and you will not see the "configure panel" kontextmenu entry.. WHAT DOESN'T WORK: ################# # "kdeglobals" and action restrictions could work (but i don't know where to put them # do NOT [$i] the whole section [Containments][1] this will lead to a blank panel... similar to placing a [$i] at the beginning of the file # [Containments][1][Applets][21] this is org.kde.plasma.kicker - i shouldn't be able to change the kicker icon for example but i still am.. :( interestingly it doesn't change the value of custom image button but i can disable the custom image button - it will then revert back to the default K icon. more interesting than locking down every single bit of plasma would be a way to disable rightclick on ALL containments at once.. i will work on this list and test more of the #kiosk framework in the next days.. hopefully someone of you has some experience or is curious to help me figure this out.. i guess a good list of what works and what not is a good starting point for talking to the devs :-) thx have a nice day/night _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
