Plasma 5.4 Kickstart Meeting = schedule agreement https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 - https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=031gkgqg1hjf8lcmj0em1d2sj8%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Madrid - agreed
= what will happen with baloo/kfilemetadata/baloo-widgets - move baloo/kfilemetadata in july - release baloo-widgets with applications (standalone or as part of dolphin) - added to TODO = consider moving kio-extras to applications in july too - added to TODO = Review TODO items https://todo.kde.org/?controller=board&action=shttps://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=fs&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8how&project_id=44 - cards were moved = consider if systemd-kcm should be included - needs UI review and use cases - Jonathan proposed to include it but as standalone tar - sebas to reply on mailing list - discussion to continue on mailing list = Dividing up the most major bugs in 5.3.0 between us for priority fixing - bugs were allocated - except ksyscoca as root + sudo putting root files in $HOME/.cache, discussion continued on IRC = different wallpapers on different virtual desktops. We should discuss it a bit - push bblas - d_ed to send jens bug report - get VDG onto nice designs for activities - ivan to be voluntold = System Tray - speaking of recurring piece of feedback: xembed systray - qt 4 apps can use the sni patch but only if distros pick it up and sni-qt is installed which isn't always the case with e.g. skype - gtk old API apps need ported to new API - we don't want to implement xembed (which gnome has). conclusion: sit it out - kubuntu to add to kubuntu-notifier to install sni-qt:i386 with skype - jr to report to firefox/thunderbird extensions - jr to report to wine [ Lync and office with sharepoint only work in windows or wine] - jr to report to dropbox - others problems include keepassx systray-on-start apps, wine = New CI intro - sgclark - running now at https://build.kde.org/ = Formats / locale configuration: people are missing KLocale - QLocale better in some ways, worse in other. jlayt off radar - Eike to work on it, ltinkl volunteers too = Wayland < mgraesslin> so 5.4 is planned to be the first release with proper Wayland support < mgraesslin> that's two areas < mgraesslin> * managing Wayland client < mgraesslin> * drm backend < mgraesslin> drm backend is already merged into master < mgraesslin> but it still needs love (mostly multi-screen) < mgraesslin> Wayland client support is currently a branch with 80 commits which depending on how much time I find for it could go into master in about two weekd < sebas> the libkscreen stuff is pretty far along, needs a bit more polishing, then we can integrate it with kwin < sebas> and going through review, obviously < mgraesslin> Plasma itself will probably need to stick on X in the next release < mgraesslin> many things will break on Wayland < mgraesslin> which needs protocols < mgraesslin> e.g. taskmanager, clipboard, page, absolute positioning etc = KActivities - There's a lot of development that should be put in common - not covered, ivan had to leave alas = VDG plans and focus - keep fleshing out missing icons - Add high contrast cursor theme + other variations - use mouse cursor theme kcm as opportunity to define standard kcm UI patterns - taskbar tooltip layout design improvement (within no-resizing constraints) - reduce +VisualDesign bugs backlog - wallpaper for 5.4 - high contrast color scheme - coordinate with devs and complete a design target for integrated activities and virtual desktop - consider if gtk 2 theme should be merged https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=125246&start=15 - numix doing gtk 3 theme (get them talking to gtk 2 dude above) = System Settings - Design target: https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/System_Settings_Application - Updated overview page - New Search mode - Start with consistent Module layout - Developer needed = Breeze theme as backup instead of Oxygen - admin (red) color scheme - 16:04 < htietze> I read andreas_k in this way: Default theme should be Breeze instead of Oxygen. And the fallback solution if something fails is Breeze. - 16:05 < notmart> that's i guess is in frameworkintegration and there is breeze already? - to investigate = Desktop Configuration Vision - Design target: https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/Plasma_5_Desktop_Configuration - to send to mailing list = Solid::Power - new library to solve Plasma dependency on kdelibs4support - fully async, atm 2 backends (systemd+upower / HAL) - currently hosted at https://github.com/caybro/solid-power, planning to move it to kde.git real soon - 1st phase: port PowerDevil to it, cut the nasty circular runtime dependency, adjusting the API as we need it - 2nd phase: plasma-workspace + plasma-desktop porting (shell, dataengines, etc.) - 3rd phase: make Solid::Power a framework (hopefully before 5.4 freeze so that we can depend on a released version thereof) = New Todo items? https://todo.kde.org/?controller=board&action=show&project_id=44 - added to board from above discussions - https://todo.kde.org/?controller=board&action=show&project_id=44
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