> On Jan. 26, 2015, 9:08 vorm., Marco Martin wrote: > > where do you want to use it? > > Iirc Bhushan is working o a global way to make series of kcms accessible > > from plasmoids > > David Edmundson wrote: > Generic is always better. > KDeclarative is used from places outside Plasma. Applications in future > will need to open KCMs too. > If we put it in Plasma in one year we'll end up with this anyway and we > end up maintaining a weird system used only by us. > > Also from a discussion on IRC you'll end up guessing the name to put in > the UI. This will lead to blocking developers from being able to do the right > thing by trying to be too clever. > > Bhushan Shah wrote: > My suggestion is to have both this can be used by applets if they don't > like solution provided by plasma-framework OR optionally turn this into > simple processrunner, there are use cases for both methods > > Marco Martin wrote: > apart that reading an "always" makes me cringe :p > what I really don't like is the ui inconsistencies that this will cause > (an encourages). They will happen anyways true, but at least a timid attempt > at fighting that could be done (this was always been a problem in KDE, wasn't > it..), creating a path of least resistence and trying to enforce it is an > approach. > > in the end is mostly a technical problem, since the actual proper > solution (putting them in the configure dialog) is not possible anymore. if > some day this will be possible again (for instance kcms in qml) that should > be the preferred way again, so both approaches are in the end just > workarounds, so... whatever (/me shrugs) > > Bhushan Shah wrote: > Or another option is something like https://paste.kde.org/pirqonxvl > > so that you can just do plasmoid.openConfigurationModules() > > Sebastian Kügler wrote: > It would be possible if we made the applet's config dialog a QWidget (the > KCM container) and put a QML container into that to load the actual config > modules for the applet. The problem with this approach is that it's the exact > opposite direction we have been going to, but at least it's not hidden from > the API. > > I'm not proposing this, just bringing it up since it came up in my head: > food for thought. > > Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > That could also give us back the widget sidebar looking consistent with > the KCMs if we used a traditional window with a sidebar and then have pages > for each of the qml config pages and add additional KCMs there as needed. For > other formfactors the old all-QML view could be used again, given that > widget-based apps don't really fit into a touch environment anyway. > On the other hand, isn't systemsettings destined to become QtQuick-based > eventually? > > Marco Martin wrote: > yeah, *can* be done, but i consider it really a step back at this point. > it's problem was mostly a "too soon" but still think was the right direction > > Sebastian Kügler wrote: > I lean towards not going this step back as well. Not that I have an > alternative solution to offer, though. :/
So, what do we do then? :) - Kai Uwe ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122239/#review74750 ----------------------------------------------------------- On Jan. 24, 2015, 11:54 nachm., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122239/ > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > (Updated Jan. 24, 2015, 11:54 nachm.) > > > Review request for Plasma. > > > Repository: kdeclarative > > > Description > ------- > > Since there are already like 10 copies of the ProcessRunner for all kinds of > plasmoids wanting to open a KCM, this adds a KCMShell.open("foo") and > KCMShell.open(["foo", "bar", "baz"]) singleton. > > > Diffs > ----- > > src/qmlcontrols/kquickcontrolsaddons/CMakeLists.txt 65e28ff > src/qmlcontrols/kquickcontrolsaddons/kcmshell.h PRE-CREATION > src/qmlcontrols/kquickcontrolsaddons/kcmshell.cpp PRE-CREATION > src/qmlcontrols/kquickcontrolsaddons/kquickcontrolsaddonsplugin.cpp 289f1ed > > Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122239/diff/ > > > Testing > ------- > > Works. Dunno if the name causes clashes or this is the right place to put it. > > > Thanks, > > Kai Uwe Broulik > >
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