On 28.08.2014 17:52, Marco Martin wrote:
On Tuesday 26 August 2014 21:26:42 Philipp Stefan wrote:
Hello everyone,

the VDG told me to take a look at the system tray after the 5.0
releases, because even though it's a huge step forward, we felt that
there are some inconsistencies in how it behaves. My task was to
identify these issues and come up with possible solutions. We talked
about them already and think it is now time to come forwards with our
suggestions. If these ideas are accepted we'll deliver guidelines on how
to integrate an application nicely into the system tray.

so ,as a conclusion, I want to try to do a very bare bone recap:

* there seems to be too many icons in the popup, especially some that don't
really do much
* completely hiding icons of statusnotifiers of applications gives problems,
because makes those applications unreachable for all intents and purposes
* however should be pretty safe to hide plasmoids: with a possible state more,
things like the device notifier can be completely hidden when empty
* an extra state for statusnotifiers may cause problems for unity and the two
gtk clients.
* completely hide vs an extra layer of show/collapse what's better?

* As a first action item, completely hide really empty plasmoids (it would be
up to the plasmoid logic to decide that with setting the proper state on
itself)

* Still open problem: less crowded popup, but still being able to access
applications that are accessible only by their systray icon
I'd also add that Unity's and Plasma's interpretation of the spec are currently not compatible.
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