> On Aug. 18, 2014, 1:55 p.m., Àlex Fiestas wrote:
> > Besides the nitpits, here is a concern I have.
> > 
> > KScreen is a library that should be used only by components of the shell 
> > (kwin, plasma, kscreen), the idea is to have a library that manipulates 
> > lowlevel stuff directly so we can control how we do things (events and what 
> > not). Because of this having a qscreen backend enabled by default (even if 
> > it is only in platforms where we don't have a backend) imho is a no-go. We 
> > can't relay on abstractions.
> > 
> > That said, I do think that having a qscreen backend is an excellent 
> > fallback to test the shell in non supported platforms while we develop a 
> > proper backend, but we have to find a way of doing so qscreen backend is 
> > not used by accident.
> > 
> > To archieve this I see 2 options:
> > 1-Load qscreen backend only via KSCREEN_BACKEND env
> > 2-Improve backendloader and backends to make sure we use the proper backend 
> > in every case.
> > 
> > I think I will go for 1 at the moment, and we can figure out how to do the 
> > backend loading later on.
> > 
> > What do you think?

1 sounds like a sane approach to me especially if it's supposed to be for early 
testing.


- Martin


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On Aug. 18, 2014, 11:31 a.m., Sebastian Kügler wrote:
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> (Updated Aug. 18, 2014, 11:31 a.m.)
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> 
> Review request for Plasma and Solid.
> 
> 
> Repository: libkscreen
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> This patch adds a QScreen backend to libkscreen.
> 
> This is useful to avoid a dependency on XRandR (at build time) and a running 
> X server at runtime.
> 
> The backend itself is read-only and kept simple. It only reports the basic 
> necessities (which is what QScreen provides).
> 
> The changes are kept to the backends/qscreen directory, so no API has been 
> touched. The changes outside of that directory are autotests, tests, and a 
> fallback to the qscreen backend non non-X11 platforms. The latter will 
> automatically make libkscreen work on Wayland (as far as QScreen allows us 
> to, so r-o). This case otherwise just crashes, and the XRandR backend can't 
> work. If the user specifies the backend using the KSCREEN_BACKEND env var, it 
> will be respected, the automatism only triggers when no backend is 
> explicitely specified. I've also added apidocs in some files, but again, no 
> functional changes.
> 
> The plan is to augment this also with a native Wayland backend, which will 
> take a bit longer to complete (more complex, it's r-w, I have to learn 
> Wayland APIs). That backend is work-in-progress in the sebas/wayland branch. 
> The QScreen backend allows us to test and run our code under Wayland, without 
> crashing, so we can continue the port while a native Wayland backend is 
> conceived.
> 
> You can find the code for this QScreen backend in sebas/qscreen if you'd like 
> to give it a try.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   autotests/CMakeLists.txt 18b93c0 
>   autotests/testqscreenbackend.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/CMakeLists.txt a827ee8 
>   backends/abstractbackend.h 7ffe627 
>   backends/qscreen/CMakeLists.txt PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/qscreen/qscreenbackend.h PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/qscreen/qscreenbackend.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/qscreen/qscreenconfig.h PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/qscreen/qscreenconfig.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/qscreen/qscreenoutput.h PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/qscreen/qscreenoutput.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/qscreen/qscreenscreen.h PRE-CREATION 
>   backends/qscreen/qscreenscreen.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   src/CMakeLists.txt 4606862 
>   src/backendloader.cpp d6ccdff 
>   src/config.h 10a8f1e 
>   tests/CMakeLists.txt 86efedc 
>   tests/testplugandplay.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   tests/testpnp.h PRE-CREATION 
>   tests/testpnp.cpp PRE-CREATION 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119822/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> * Ran autotest "testqscreenbackend" under X11 and Wayland -- all pass
> * Tested hotplugging (using included testpnp app) under X11
> * Started plasmashell with KSCREEN_BACKEND=QScreen under X11
> * Started kcmshell5 kcm_kscreen
> 
> All of these work correctly in my tests, no strange behaviour observed.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sebastian Kügler
> 
>

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