Hey, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Sebastian Kügler <se...@kde.org> wrote:
> Hi, > > I'm pondering how much is the Thursday-to-be-tagged alpha worth, vs being a > pain in the ass. We're facing a number of problems right now, let me list > them: > > - We need some frameworks in newer-than-alpha1-version, notably > kwindowsystem > - plasma-framework needs to be repackaged, anyway > - everybody is testing with latest frameworks, so even if we manage to > build > against the alpha1 of frameworks, how useful is testing then? > Note that the last release of KF5 was alpha2, the next one is beta already. > - we have a whole bunch of pending work waiting > > You see, we've already learned by just trying to do an Alpha, and we're > facing > a number of problems. That's (almost) fine, it's why we do pre-releases in > the > first place. > I'm pondering the possibility to delay the first alpha until we have a new > alpha of frameworks, and then pushing it shortly thereafter, reducing the > risk > of a needed delta. > > The disadvantage is that we delay wide-spread testing, the upside is that > the > whole stack is much cleaner and actually possible to be sensibly packaged. > > This would mean: > > - getting all pending work in quickly, getting the split done, all before > end > of this month > > - no changes to plasma-framework or any other framework that is required > for > the Alpha between 28 April (tagging of frameworks alpha2) and Plasma Next > Alpha 1 tagging (could happen the next day, or as soon as frameworks alpha2 > has been smoke-tested. Plasma Next packages have to work on latest > frameworks > pre-release > I'm a bit confused about the dates. I think you mean 28 March, which is when KF5 beta1 will be tagged. Otherwise I agree, we should then switch to the tag and use/test plasma only with that. > - paying more attention to changes in frameworks to make sure the above > works > > - we either skip on alpha, or we squish the schedule to make it fit > (schedule > could use some aligning to frameworks releases, anyway), (I'd prefer the > latter) > > I'm undecided, but have been for two days, so I thought I'd bring it up > here. > What do you think? > Given the frameworks repackaging needed, I think it makes sense to wait for their release. But that delays the Plasma alpha by 2 weeks. Which is fine I think and I'd personally be in favor of. Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer
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