On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Sebastian Kügler <se...@kde.org> wrote: > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 19:38:30 Mark Gaiser wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Sebastian Kügler <se...@kde.org> wrote: >> > - the calendar should move into the systray popup >> >> Why? > > Same reason for moving all the others into the same popup: less visually > jarring transitions, less different popups. > >> The calendar is part of the clock, that will remain the same i suppose? >> Following that logic, it will never be in the systray at all. > > They're supposed to share the same popup. Let's see how this pans out. If it > doesn't work well, bummer. If it does, it could be a really nice improvement.
err.. Another thread, and another place where i completely lost you. Sebas, be a bit more _verbose_ in your answers. I don't know the deep internals of plasma or how it currently looks. >From what you just said it sounds like the clock popup and notification popup are one and the same? That's not the impression i have when looking at your own screenshots: https://plus.google.com/+SebastianK%C3%BCgler/posts/DQ33L9Ejq5P There the calendar/clock popup seems to be two completely different things. So my question still stands: The calendar is part of the clock, that will remain the same i suppose? Following that logic, it will never be in the systray at all. > >> > The XEmbed systemtray mechanism will not be supported anymore, instead we >> > will attempt to merge support for statusnotifieritems into Qt (for >> > QSystemTray). Other desktops are going a similar route. >> >> Please don't use excuses as "Other desktops are going a similar >> route.". They might, but they suck at doing it in my opinion. >> I'm guessing you aim at windows 8 and perhaps gnome here. Otherwise, >> please do share more details. > > Patches to implement it are welcome. :) > > Seriously, have you looked at the protocol? Have you looked at the > implementations that would be possible? It's easy to say "I want that", but > that ignores the whole decision space for this. It's impossible to integrate > it, there's no way that's even remotely sane to implement this on Wayland, > it's impossible to do this in a way that's visually consistent, and that's > just the tip of the iceberg. That's not at all what i tried to say. Whatever you do in the systemtray, be extremely careful with it. You will alienate the users extremely fast if it doesn't work out for them. I - personally - just don't know. I just have to see it and judge based on that i guess :) > >> > Feedback, as usual, welcome. :) >> >> Most of it sounds good, but it's a bit difficult to picture it. Could >> you make some before and after mockups in conditions where this would >> be visible to the user? > > Lacking imagination, I think you'll have to wait for this work to appear in > code. I lack both time and skills to do mock-ups of all of this. > > Cheers, > -- > sebas > > http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
