> On Feb. 9, 2013, 6:49 p.m., Mark Gaiser wrote:
> > Just wanted to add that it has a regression that slipped in the 4.10.0 
> > release. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312684
> > 
> > If you have only one virtual desktop the pager just shows an empty area. 
> > That is obviously wrong. It is actually very clearly visible in this - long 
> > - review: http://www.muktware.com/5194/kde-410-review-time-switch-kde. Just 
> > look at the first image, the gap between activity icon and dolphin is the 
> > pager.
> 
> Luís Gabriel Lima wrote:
>     Actually it's not a regression. As you can see in the history of this 
> review, it was requested to hide the pager when there is only one virtual 
> desktop. Although I can see a bug in the current implementation, the pager 
> should be considerably small (practically hidden). Right now it's just making 
> the virtual desktop rect invisible and keeping the same size.
> 
> Shaun Reich wrote:
>     Oh it most certainly is on at least some level. Yes, if the pager is 
> going to be hidden when one desktop is there, it shouldn't ghostily take up 
> any room. But I don't think hiding the widget just because there is one 
> desktop is a solution. In fact, I have seen users get confused around this, 
> because their system is set to 1 VD and they add a pager widget, and what 
> happens? Nothing. So they add it a few more times. Then they try adding it to 
> a different panel, it still isn't working.
>     
>     Turns out I had to tell them that they had to change the VD count to > 1, 
> and surprise surprise! there's 20 pager widgets all over the desktop.
>     
>     This is another case of someone trying to make something look clean and 
> minimalistic, but not thinking about the consequences when it comes to user 
> interaction.
>     
>     If you don't like how the pager widget looks with 1 desktop, then don't 
> ship it by default with 1 desktop, or don't ship the pager widget at all on a 
> default desktop (which honestly I don't think many users(aka average) would 
> use it in a default desktop).
>     
>     Turning the pager widget into a ghost widget is definitely not the answer 
> and we're going to get a lot of issues because of that, as I noted above, 
> because I witnessed them first hand... Making it invisible really just pushes 
> the confusion upward a bit more.
> 
> Mark Gaiser wrote:
>     I understand your reasoning, but i don't think you should do this. In my 
> opinion a plasmoid - and certainly one that's on the panel - should never be 
> invisible but still take up room. If you do it you'd better show a big 
> warning notifying the user of that. Or you should just prohibit the plasmoid 
> if the user has just one virtual desktop.
>     
>     Another usecase that apparently hasn't been considered is my usecase 
> (obviously ;)). I have 3 "displays" attached. 2 monitors and one beamer. The 
> beamer obviously isn't on by default yet it is possible that windows open in 
> the beamer area. Thus i don't see those windows. If the pager would just show 
> itself i would instantly notice that some windows where opened on a display 
> that isn't turned on which would very easily allow me to drag those windows 
> back to one of the enabled displays.
>     
>     So yes, i think this is a regression.
>     
>     Also a point of critic about the code. 
> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=blob&h=228af8ec44f217553dec7ee7e10e1a0ffeda66dd&hb=1538ddeabae2488163f76a12080e6b152872f3a8&f=plasma%2Fdesktop%2Fapplets%2Fpager%2Fpager.cpp
>     
>     m_dummy = new Plasma::FrameSvg(this);
>     m_dummy->setImagePath("widgets/pager");
>     Should be done through plasma QML.
>     
>     void Pager::updatePagerStyle()
>     Should all be done through QML.
>     
>     In short, all the painting - and how it should be painted - should be 
> done through QML. So if you want to set a different opacity then you simply 
> supply that value in the model and use it in QML. If you want to set the Z 
> level then you also provide that through the model and set it that way. 
> etcetera.. etcetera...
>     
>     If you need help with some QML stuff, you can ask me.
> 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>     design discussion belongs on plasma-devel in a proper thread, not in the 
> comments section of this review.
>     
>     @Mark: the FrameSvg is not used for painting. the style information is 
> made available to the QML via a property, where it used by the QML to paint 
> and handle display. looking at the code, it seems that at least some of the 
> values would require extensions to the color scheme support we currently 
> offer to QML in Plasma Components. keep in mind that this is also a port from 
> C++ to C++/QML; the effort to get rid of all the C++ would hardly be 
> justified (in terms of effort/benefit) given that it would not provide any 
> benefits that i can see. certainly, if this was to be written from scratch 
> today we'd probably do it differently. we try to avoid wholesale rewrites, 
> however, when not necessary.
> 
> Luís Gabriel Lima wrote:
>     @Mark: Can you create a thread on plasma-devel to discuss the hidden 
> problem? 
>     
>     About you critics, Aaron already have answered them properly. The 
> FrameSvg is a dummy one (as its name suggests), and it's used to get the 
> margins of the framesvg. We need the margins to calculate the correct size 
> and positioning of the virtual desktop rects.

Aaron and Luis, Oke, will do. It will be roughly the same as i said above minus 
the code critics.


- Mark


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On Aug. 30, 2012, 2:30 a.m., Luís Gabriel Lima wrote:
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> (Updated Aug. 30, 2012, 2:30 a.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma and Marco Martin.
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> This patch contains the QML port of the Pager plasmoid done during the GSoC 
> 2012.
> 
> In this port basically I used QML to paint the Pager UI and deal with the 
> user interaction. 
> The geometry calculation of the desktop and window rectangles was kept in C++ 
> as well as other routines that needs to interact with classes like 
> KWindowSystem, QDbusConnection and so on.
> This patch also introduces the PagerModel, a QAIM subclass that holds the 
> desktop/window geometries and is used by the QML part to fill the UI.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   plasma/desktop/applets/pager/CMakeLists.txt 5d80514 
>   plasma/desktop/applets/pager/model.h PRE-CREATION 
>   plasma/desktop/applets/pager/model.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   plasma/desktop/applets/pager/package/contents/ui/main.qml PRE-CREATION 
>   plasma/desktop/applets/pager/package/contents/ui/utils.js PRE-CREATION 
>   plasma/desktop/applets/pager/package/metadata.desktop PRE-CREATION 
>   plasma/desktop/applets/pager/pager.h 6c7c045 
>   plasma/desktop/applets/pager/pager.cpp 74dc529 
> 
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106112/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> - Tested inside panels and floating on desktop, sizing works as expected
> - Mouse interactions (move windows around, change desktop, etc)
> 
> 
> Screenshots
> -----------
> 
> 
>   http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106112/s/691/
> 
>   http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106112/s/692/
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Luís Gabriel Lima
> 
>

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