> On Oct. 8, 2012, 9:52 a.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > any application which expects the user to access files on disk but does not 
> > provide a clear representation of mounted / removable devices is broken. 
> > there's no point in degrading our own primary UI for such fixable 
> > brokenness. can you provide a (short :) list of any such broken 
> > applications which are high-profile / in common use?
> 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>     ah, and i should also add that tooltips on items in popup windows as it 
> leads to a matryoshka doll effect that is most inelegant visually, so we try 
> to avoid such things unless there is a very good reason for them.

I think too that nested popups/tooltips look inelegant, but since it was 
Jacopo's suggestion I though it may be at least worth trying it out...

In my experience hardly any non-KDE applications are able to show or control 
the mounting of removable devices - most of them stick to the hopeless Gnome 
file selector, and not all of them can be made to work well with KDE 
integration.  Certainly in my daily use neither mozilla, 
libreoffice/openoffice, gimp or googleearth identify removable devices.  
Inkscape is the only major application that at least tries.  They are indeed 
broken (by design), but they are unlikely to be fixed before the heat death of 
the universe.


- Jonathan


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On Oct. 8, 2012, 9:31 a.m., Jonathan Marten wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 8, 2012, 9:31 a.m.)
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> 
> Review request for KDE Base Apps and Plasma.
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> If a removable device is mounted using the Plasma device notifier, there is 
> no indication of what the Unix name of the device is or where it is mounted.  
> This information may be useful to the user for (a) accessing the mounted 
> device from non-KDE applications, or (b) troubleshooting mounting or 
> unmounting problems.
> 
> The attached patch shows this information when the device is hovered over, 
> just above the "N actions for this device" text.  Depending on whether or not 
> the device is mounted, there are three possibilities that can be shown here:
> 
>   /dev/XXX                           when not mounted
>   /dev/XXX mounted on /media/YYYY    when mounted
>   /dev/XXX mounted                   if mounted but the mount point is not 
> available
> 
> Please be gentle, this is my first QML patch :-)
> 
> 
> This addresses bug 196939.
>     http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196939
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
>   plasma/generic/applets/devicenotifier/package/contents/ui/DeviceItem.qml 
> 396de2c 
> 
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
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> 
> Built kde-workspace with this change, observed operation and display of 
> device notifier with a selection of removable devices.
> 
> 
> Screenshots
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> 
> Device notifier with mounted device
>   http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/s/756/
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan Marten
> 
>

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