On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Marco Martin <notm...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday 04 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: >> Hi! >> I've been trying to make sense out of the new screen locker and I'm >> not sure the whole system is ready for release yet. So I'd like to >> discuss a little about it and see what can we do to push it forward. > > it has been in a branch for more than a year, in review for more than a month, > concerns (and help in solving them or are not valid:p) should have been > expressed then > > but it's not too late, patches welcome > yay for bugfixes, > down with bikeshed > >> By default, since the new branch was merged, I'm getting a white >> screen (that feels a bit aggressive), so I decided to go to the KCM >> and see what can can I do to stop this. Let me discuss my experience: > > should be the default wallpaper, and yes should try to find it in a bit more > robust fashion > (/me points out that before it was a black screen, so no change here) > > i would like to have only the option with widgets. > it's significantly slower to start tough, so that still needs to be solved > >> - In System Settings, it was listed under "Display and Monitor". Maybe >> it made sense for the screen savers, but when you _lock_ you don't do >> it for the screen, you're also locking all input so it's more of a >> different thing. (I know, we're not going to solve the system settings >> here) > > yeah, in fact is called the "screen locker", and everywhere this is used the > action is called "lock screen", how one could think is about the screen? how > silly > </sarcasm> > >> Then we are in the KCM, we have 2 types of options: locking and screen >> saver types. >> Let me put a screenshot of what I see: >> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/04/plasma-desktopZfl805.png >> >> - We can set an option to "Start Automatically after x seconds". I >> have a feeling that tells me that this should depend on the Power >> Settings Plasmoid but then again the wording would be terribly weird. >> In any case we don't want to get our screen locked from the >> "Presentation" activity. >> >> About the screen locker types: >> >> - We have a big interface with most things disabled by default. It >> made me excited in the beginning then it all disappeared fast. >> - We have a "Simple Locker". What does that mean? Why can't I test it? > > it's the default, a test button would just basically be a button to lock the > screen, it can be done > >> - Then we have Screen Savers where I have Random and just Black Screen >> (I think Black is simple enough...). Do we have other "Screen Savers"? > > they are all in kdeartwork in svn. > the initial idea was to kill that 90's stuff altogether, was kept by popuplar > demand (well, at least in wayland we'll have to kill it anyways, yay) > >> There's also the "Desktop Widgets" option. There, I think a nicer name >> would be "Interactive Locker". It sounded appealing to me but then: >> - For some reason I changed something that plasma didn't like, so now >> every time the overlay is called I get a crash. This means that if I >> lock my computer, then I get a black screen that I can't get back >> from. > > backtrace? probably is a crash fixed yesterday in workspace > >> And in general, I understand that it's a locking screen, but I'd like >> to see it being able to have different unlocking systems rather than >> the password, have we considered that? >> > > meh, write a plugin for that. > > it supports either any greeter that kdm supports or you can do you own thing > in qml (we have a touch based one in active that doesn't ask passwords) > > until then, it supports all the unlock types that were supported before > > Cheers, > Marco Martin > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Oh, I'm sorry if this sounded like a rant. I didn't expect this to drive us into a bike-shedding position. I just knew it sat in a branch for a while and I wanted to know if there were reasons behind this or it was just legacy. >From my PoV I think that we should make sure that the plasma overlay is enough in this case. I didn't know that it was decided to let xscreensavers to stay so I guess it's normal that we need an option box with the old and new for a while. About my crash, could somebody point me to how is the overlay run? I think it's due to some problem with the wallpapers but i'm not all that sure. Once that's fixed, I'd like to propose a new design for this KCM. Thanks! Aleix _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
