On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 15:10:42 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 12:54:23 todd rme wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Alex Fiestas <afies...@kde.org> wrote: > > > Taking a look at some apps, I've noticed that most of them have an > > > almost > > > unused statusbar (or totally not used in some cases) resulting in a big > > > empty grey space. > > > > > > In the same way that bit a bit we're fixing the KStatusNotifeir behavior > > > in > > > our apps, should we fix the status bar by removing it and placing > > > somewhere > > > else the content (if they are really needed?) > > > > > > The easier thing though, and the very least we should do is hide it by > > > default as some apps do. > > > > > > What do you think? is statusbar (as badly used right now) needed? > > > > What about the way rekonq does it? It just displays the information > > needed when it is needed in a box in the lower-right of the window. > > This could do with some better theming perhaps, but otherwise for > > these situations it seems to make sense. > > The rekonq one is quite good as it is context sensitive, but with my KWin > dev hat on I could cry when I see how they did it.
yes, well, that's because they chose a silly way of doing it :) it should just be an in-window widget, not a top-level window. > For rekonq it would be > much better to just show the link as a tooltip as that would be the most > context sensitive way. Why do I have to understand that the link is shown > on the down left corner of the window? Yes Firefox does it the same way. the reason is imho simple: * a tooltip obscures the text you are most likely looking at right now * the bottom left keeps it in a well known location so only when i care to see the link location i can glance exactly there and get it instantly it works well imho, just that the rekonq implementation chose a suboptimal way of accomplishing it :) > For most applications I think just removing it is the right approach. E.g. agreed > if network is not working in kopete it is way better to have a proper in > app warning than a small text in the statusbar saying "no network". > > The real issue is probably that this is an per-application change. So we > would have to define a project to go through all applications, extract the > useful messages, put them into in-app warnings and remove the statusbar. yes; as well as sometimes just saying "that information is not worth it". the kmail example is a great one. i do not care what column and line i am on and spell checking should be shown in the toolbar if at all. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks
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