On Sunday, September 25, 2011 18:24:40 Marco Martin wrote: > On Sunday 25 September 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > Personally I'd like to introduce a top panel but of course that would be > > > a major change, > > > > Top panel has a hughe disadvantage in a multi screen setup. This is very > > easy to notice if you use Mac OS X or Unity. > > i'm quite against the panel, it promotes the menubar to an importance it > lost since ages, while i'm really in favor of burying it into a menu under > the windeco, since this decreases its importance ;)
the challenge with this is that many apps rely heavily on the menu bar and moving it forceably out of the way makes those applications painful to use. the menu is something that the application knows most about. so imho it needs to be the application that does something about it. this is the corollary to "applications should not be involved in things that belong to the desktop shell". if we wish to address the menubar annoyances, we probably need to address this on the application toolkit level and offer app developers a better in-app solution that they can craft their application around. the dolphin menu button works pretty well for that kind of application, and could be something we try and standardize around. at some point that could indeed be exported to the window decoration, or whatever .. but just hiding all menus without question somewhere is going to break too many applications for our users. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks
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