On Friday 25 February 2011, Hans Chen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:18, Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: > > > What I want to know is the following: Are there any plans or outlines > > > regarding how to proceed with virtual desktop (and activities)? Are > > > they documented somewhere? > > > > There are no plans to change anything about virtual desktops. As Aaron > > wrote they are orthogonal to activities. So the introduction of > > activities does not change anything about vds. > > I don't completely agree and I think this is partly what leads to the > confusion - here you have two different concepts that seem to do pretty > much the same thing (from a user's point of view). Why? > > In my opinion there are a few things that currently make it harder to grasp > activities: > > - I see virtual desktops (VDs) as subordinate to activities, i.e., each > activity should have its own set of virtual desktops. Currently VDs are > not activity aware.
the problem is: how we really communicate that virul desktop are just a spatial arrangement, and nothing else? now, the open question is, could there be a little tweak, for instance in the pager ui that better exprimes this? > - There is an option to kind of merge activities and virtual desktops > ("Different widgets for each desktop"). I know that it was added due to > popular demand, but now that activities also manage windows I don't > think it is needed anymore. (Some users are not going to like this, I > know.) yes, is the single feature i regret the most, but i really think if it will be removed, bad bad things will happen. i rally really hate that feature and if a plasma2 will come, that would be a wonderful excuse to make it vanish. > > Other than such bugs/wishlists that would improve the users' understanding > of activities, we should think about how VDs can be improved (like Nuno's > idea). Previously some people used them as context switchers, but now that > we have activities I see virtual desktops as mainly a way to organize > windows. How to better reflect this? I like the direction GNOME Shell seems > to be going - virtual desktops are automatically added or removed depending well, gnome shell just calls virtual desktop "activities" and this confuses things even more ;) i don't necessarily like the implications of not having virtual desktops as they are now anymore, (also from a tecnical, window manager spec side of things) the concept of a big linear desktop bigger than the screen is nice for sure, has many issues tough. like requiring huge wallpapers and won't really work with maximized windows (as a side note, will be fun to see how big will be the user uprising for the decision of gnome shell to kill maximize and minimize buttons) Cheers, Marco Martin _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel