On Friday 25 February 2011, Hans Chen wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:18, Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote:
> > > What I want to know is the following: Are there any plans or outlines
> > > regarding how to proceed with virtual desktop (and activities)? Are
> > > they documented somewhere?
> >
> > There are no plans to change anything about virtual desktops. As Aaron
> > wrote they are orthogonal to activities. So the introduction of
> > activities does not change anything about vds.
>
> I don't completely agree and I think this is partly what leads to the
> confusion - here you have two different concepts that seem to do pretty
> much the same thing (from a user's point of view). Why?
>
> In my opinion there are a few things that currently make it harder to grasp
> activities:
>
> - I see virtual desktops (VDs) as subordinate to activities, i.e., each
> activity should have its own set of virtual desktops. Currently VDs are
> not activity aware.
the problem is:
how we really communicate that virul desktop are just a spatial arrangement,
and nothing else?
now, the open question is, could there be a little tweak, for instance in the
pager ui that better exprimes this?
> - There is an option to kind of merge activities and virtual desktops
> ("Different widgets for each desktop"). I know that it was added due to
> popular demand, but now that activities also manage windows I don't
> think it is needed anymore. (Some users are not going to like this, I
> know.)
yes, is the single feature i regret the most, but i really think if it will be
removed, bad bad things will happen.
i rally really hate that feature and if a plasma2 will come, that would be a
wonderful excuse to make it vanish.
>
> Other than such bugs/wishlists that would improve the users' understanding
> of activities, we should think about how VDs can be improved (like Nuno's
> idea). Previously some people used them as context switchers, but now that
> we have activities I see virtual desktops as mainly a way to organize
> windows. How to better reflect this? I like the direction GNOME Shell seems
> to be going - virtual desktops are automatically added or removed depending
well, gnome shell just calls virtual desktop "activities" and this confuses
things even more ;)
i don't necessarily like the implications of not having virtual desktops as
they are now anymore, (also from a tecnical, window manager spec side of
things)
the concept of a big linear desktop bigger than the screen is nice for sure,
has many issues tough.
like requiring huge wallpapers and won't really work with maximized windows
(as a side note, will be fun to see how big will be the user uprising for the
decision of gnome shell to kill maximize and minimize buttons)
Cheers,
Marco Martin
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