On Sunday, February 13, 2011, todd rme wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Aaron J. Seigo <ase...@kde.org> wrote: > > On Sunday, February 13, 2011, todd rme wrote: > >> Okay, I will do so. Not all of these ideas are mine, I am just > > > >> passing along the ones I think are worthwhile: > > thanks for the list. please add the ones with consensus to the web page. > > > >> Device Notifier: > >> 1. Double click on a device to open it in the default application. > >> Alternatively, have an icon on the right with the default application > >> and click on that. > > > > -1; single click means two clicks, so there is no savings here. it will > > only make the code even more complex for no real win. > > There is a saving because you don't have to find your target, > re-position the mouse, then click again.
too little gain for creating a "magic double click". > And what about the icon variant? That only needs 1 click we end up with a ton of icons with increasing lack of clarity as to what they mean. not elegant. > >> Lock/Logout: > >> 1. Add more options: Screen saver, shut down, reboot, turn off screen. > > > > screen saver == lock; > > Not everyone wants to lock their screen. and that's worth an extra button and configuration option? meh. > > shutdown and reboot == leave; > > The whole point is to have separate options for shut down and reboot. > That way you can logout with just one click instead of needing two. i don't feel the savings is worth the risk of accidental log outs. it will end up with a confirmation, so we'll still have extra clicks. > > turn off screen is better > > left to hardware keys. > > Why? unless things have changed, this is something that doesn't always work on all systems via software? maybe that's something that has been fixed in the last N years? > >> 2. Put icons of the options next to the options on the config dialog. > > Was there supposed to be a comment here? > > >> Calculator: > >> 1. Scientific mode > > > > no; start a different plasmoid that can become the uber graphing science > > monster calculator :) > > This would still be a smallish job since it would almost certainly > start as a fork of the existing one, so should that go in? dunno if it would start as a fork or not; but it could still go on that page. > >> 2. Enable and disable labels independently for the main portion and > >> the popup. Currently the popup always has labels. > > > > what would the point of this be? > > The labels take up a lot of space, forcing you to move your mouse > further, and they force the popup into a vertical orientation. corollary: they are easier to hit due to being bigger. 6 of one, half dozen of another at best. -1 on the basis that it means config UI bloat and more code paths to maintain. > >> Folder view: > >> 1. On hover on the title, show a "refresh" button. > > > > when is refresh needed? > > Ideally it wouldn't be, but as long as fam is optional you can't count > on folders being properly refreshed. It is also needed when you use > nepomuk searches as your folder view, since those are not properly > refreshed on changes. sounds like a flaw in nepomuk searches and systems without change notification. work arounds suck and prevent fixes where they belong. -1. > >> Preview: > >> 1. Integrate the "preview" widget with the dolphin part, so when > >> clicking the "preview" action in dolphin it popups up the preview > >> widget above dolphin with a preview of that file > > > > not sure about this one; would highly depend on the UI implementation > > imho. > > It would be the same UI as on the desktop, only it wouldn't be on the > desktop. hm.. possible. sure, +1 :) but it's a dolphin thing, not really a plasma thing. > We already have the action there, it just doesn't work very > well (if at all, I couldn't figure out how to get it to work at > least). what action is where, and how does this action not work very well? (more specifics ... :) > >> World clock > >> 1. Let the user temporarily set a custom time for the local time zone, > >> and the use the mouse to check what that time is in other time zones. > > > > we already do that in the clock plasmoids; world clock is a marble thing, > > though. making it consistent with the other clock plasmoids would be > > good. > > I think you misunderstood, what I meant is let a user type in a > particular time, and then let the user see what that time corresponds > to in other time zones. aah, "time travel". hm. interesting. yeah, might work. (and yes, i did misunderstand, sorry :) > >> 3. The panel should unhide when you drag a widget to it. > > > > it does for new widgets; if you mean drag'n'drop (DnD) between > > containments, well, that whole system needs a rewrite. what needs to > > happen is once the widget hits the "edge" (+ some margin?) of the > > containment it should be turned into a QDrag and "normal" DnD can begin. > > at which point, the panels will all Just Work(tm). bonus: it will also > > fix the "between multiple screens", "from panel to desktop" and perhaps > > even "between multiple activities" problem of DnD not supported well. > > Then I take it this is too much for a featurelet? it could still go on the page; it's bigger than a featurelet, but not entirely gargantuan. > >> Cashew: > >> 1. Mouse actions for the cashew. Currently we have mouse actions for > >> doing mouse events on the desktop. We should have the same thing for > >> the cashew (except for left mouse click, of course). For instance a > >> user could have scroll wheel on the desktop to change virtual > >> desktops, and scroll wheel on the cashew to change activities. > > > > mmm.. sounds complicated, in terms of configuration. it's possible, but > > my questions would be: > > > > * why just on the toolbox, rather than the whole containment? > > You can already do it on the whole containment, the idea would be to > provide additional options for the cashew. > > > * what would the configuration UI look like? > > Take the existing mouse actions config, and have two sections > "Background" and "cashew" (or whatever you want to call it, the names > are not important). Both would be the same as the existing one. sounds confusing; multiple similar UI but highly dependent on which square centimeter you click on ... add to this that we don't want to make the left click configurable on the toolbox: it is our "Get Out of Jail Free" card for when the containment or the containment actions plugins are misconfigured or misbehaving. so it wouldn't offer "left click" as a valid option ... more confusing. -1. > Another I just thought of: > > Let users set a blank label for the folder view. The label shouldn't > take up and space when it is blank. +1 and, btw, this is why these kinds of things get complicated: this is generally incompatible with the "show a refresh button" idea. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks
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