Not much to add at the moment except this: Currently, I see one of the main benefits of the Activity concept is its malleability; that is, an Activity can be anything that makes sense to the user, not just clear-cut divisions that can be easily anticipated, such as "Work", "School", "Home", and "Lolcats binge at 02:00". While I'll grant that many good and common use-cases are correllated with contextual cues or other things we can monitor, I would submit that another question to be asked is "how can we add useful automation and integration without hindering those in unanticipated or 'non-traditional' scenarios?".
Just my $0.02 - Jeffery MacEachern On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 00:49, Ryan Rix <r...@n.rix.si> wrote: > Hey all, > > Long mail follows, sorry. Really only of interest to Chani, Aaron, Ivan and > other activity folks... :) > > My goal was to bring this up for 4.6 but herp derp, I didn't, so here we go. > > I've been thinking a lot about how to give the Activity Manager a way to > predict what a user would like to be doing at a certain time, based on > external input, whether that's things like current GPS coordinates, what is > scheduled in KOrganizer right now, etc. What follows is a braindump of crap > I've been contemplating since before akademy, and it may well not make any > sense. > > Basically, I'm trying to answer a simple question: "what would cause a user to > change what they are doing (their activity), and can we monitor those events > to facilitate this change for them?": > > Susan tags her workplace in Marble (or wherever) with the Nepomuk tag "work". > The manager tracks Susan's current location via the Plasma geolocation > dataengine and when it detects that Susan has arrived at work, changes the > current activity to the activity associated with the "work" Nepomuk tag. > > Terrance has different activities for each of his university courses. When he > adds homework assignments or adds his class schedule to KOrganizer, he tags > each event with the specified class, as well as asking the manager to switch > to the associated activity when the event occurs. When the event occurs, the > manager automatically switches to the activity associated with the Nepomuk tag > Terrance has associated with the event. > > etc... Makes sense, no? I have some other use cases, but I won't copypasta > them here, for sanity's sake. > > There is also the choice of making something like this wider than this, > controlling notifications status ("presentation mode"), etc... All of this > falls in to this sort of "predict what the user wants to do" idea, but not so > much with Activities as we know them. > > So, basically we end up with two things: > * What would cause a user to change what they are doing? > * How would they change what they are doing? > > So, we end up with two lists of "things" -- plugins. What kind of API should > these plugins be expected to have and what should they expect to be able to > do? > > Then comes the question of how to implement something like this.... Fun. Do we > do it in kactivitymanagerd? In its own daemon? kded plugin? > > Next, where are we with the symbiosis between Nepomuk and the Activities > infrastructure? Both of the usecases I described above use Nepomuk tags; they > don't have to, but it's a decision we'd have to make before jumping in to > writing some code like this -- do we use Nepomuk tags, or do we hardcode to > Activities or whatever resource the plugin manipulates...? > > I'd like to start a dialog on this, and have something to show for 4.7 this > time around. I've pissed around on this for nearly six months, and have a lot > of nice ideas, just need to see how viable they are and how much they make > sense. > > Lots of love, > Ryan > -- > Ryan Rix > == http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://rix.si/ == > == http://rix.si/page/contact/ if you need a word == > > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel