> On 2010-08-23 09:00:48, Marco Martin wrote:
> > this very patch appeared here for several times already.
> > and as usual, the question is: what real value gives over auto hiding the 
> > text when there is not enough space?
> 
> Markus Slopianka wrote:
>     If this patch works with the other one that implements launcher support, 
> a Mac OS X-like Dock (AFAIK it's similar in Win7) can be implemented without 
> the need to get 3rd party widgets.
>     With a Dock-like setup I wouldn't want text other than tooltips.
> 
> Beat Wolf wrote:
>     i would actually agree on adding it from the feedback i get when i show 
> kde to people used to windows. it's one of the first things they ask for.
> 
> Aaron Seigo wrote:
>     the number of such features that have appeared over the years is immense, 
> and always people ask for those features ... as long as they are new in 
> Windows. there is no point in chasing taillights just to chase taillights. if 
> the idea is a good one, let's do it; if it isn't, let's not.
> 
> Beat Wolf wrote:
>     sure. i was just mentioning it because i for myself think its a good idea 
> and other people want it, so from my point of view if the patch has a good 
> quality, and it's actually using a feature that is there anyway, why not have 
> it.
>     But i see the other point of views too and all have their merit i think.
> 
> Todd wrote:
>     I think that the question is not so much a question of why we shouldn't 
> have titles in the task manager, the question is why we need them.  With 
> grouping and the ability in 4.5 to change between grouped windows by clicking 
> on their thumbnail, at least for me titles are just wasted space.  I 
> understand that for people without compositing they are needed, and some 
> people may still prefer them, but personally they don't contribute anything, 
> and they are huge relative to just the icons.
>     
>     I agree that the the current configuration interface for the task manager 
> is getting a bit crowded.  However, there is a way to add the feature without 
> increasing the complexity of the dialog.  Currently there are three grouping 
> options: "Do not group", "Manually", and "By Program Name".  There is also an 
> checkox "Only when taskbar is full".  The problem is that this option is only 
> meaningful in "By Program Name" mode, and in fact the checkbox is disabled 
> when the other two modes.  So I would suggest getting rid of the checkbox and 
> adding a fourth option in the dropdown "When taskbar is full", or something 
> along those lines. 
>     
>     Also, since plasma supports multiple categories in the configuration 
> dialog, it may be worthwhile splitting the current options into categories.

> With grouping and the ability in 4.5 to change between grouped windows by 
> clicking on their thumbnail, at least for me titles are just wasted space.

well, i think in this case is really fake "wasted space" because i would agree 
if the text would let to have less icons in the taskbar.
but since when there is not enough room the text gets disabled automatically, 
this is a no issue.
without that i really don't see use cases except making it look like windows


- Marco


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On 2010-08-22 13:52:33, Björn Ruberg wrote:
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> (Updated 2010-08-22 13:52:33)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma.
> 
> 
> Summary
> -------
> 
> This patch adds the option to put the taskbar in an icon-only mode - similar 
> as in Windows 7 . This is an much requested feature in bugzilla.
> It is fairly simple and just using features already existing in the code, 
> adding an m_showIconOnly member to the layout and the abstractitem plus the 
> adaption of the config ui.
> 
> 
> This addresses bug 159480.
>     https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159480
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
>   /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/tasks/tasksConfig.ui 
> 1166313 
>   /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/tasks/tasks.cpp 1166313 
>   /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/tasks/taskitemlayout.h 
> 1166313 
>   
> /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/tasks/taskitemlayout.cpp 
> 1166313 
>   
> /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/tasks/abstracttaskitem.h 
> 1166313 
>   
> /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/tasks/abstracttaskitem.cpp
>  1166313 
>   /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/tasks/taskgroupitem.h 
> 1166313 
>   /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/tasks/taskgroupitem.cpp 
> 1166313 
> 
> Diff: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5078/diff
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Moved panel around and made sure it works. Looks actually pretty good this 
> icon-only mode!
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Björn
> 
>

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