Reviving an old thread with an update from SoK23 (see below).

On 8/10/22 12:47, Nicolas Fella wrote:
Am 10.08.22 um 12:29 schrieb Harald Sitter:
Servus,

A while ago I prototyped a "new" approach to UI testing and I'm
wondering if there's general interest in doing more Plasma testing
using it. I'm able to invest time in polishing the experience for us.

Very rough prototype: https://invent.kde.org/sitter/selenium-webdriver-at-spi

The testing is run through the accessibility API we have on Linux
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Accessibility/AT-SPI2/ as well as the
testing API selenium https://www.selenium.dev/ respectively the more
specific appium https://appium.io/

Architecturally appium is an extension to selenium and selenium is a
client-server system where the client is the test and the server is a
so called webdriver. Webdriver is a standardized well-defined API of
various UI interactions https://www.w3.org/TR/webdriver/ and we'd
implement one based on the a11y APIs (the feature sets match fairly
well).

Since selenium has wide spread use across the industry we get to use
excellent tooling on the client without any extra work from us. And
because it is so wide spread the stuff is generally very well
maintained. All we need to maintain is the webdriver that interacts
with the a11y API.

The way this type of testing works is by UI interaction and state
validation. There is a kcalc test available in the prototype repo [1]
- the test operates the various UI elements to perform a calculation
and then checks that the output UI element contains the expected
value.

A simple plasma test might open kickoff, and launch one of the
favorites, then validate that indeed a new window has opened.

Since all this is driven by the a11y API there is the additional
advantage of making us notice a11y problems and deal with them,
resulting in bettery a11y support in the long run. Two birds, one
stone!

What do you reckon?

[1] https://invent.kde.org/sitter/selenium-webdriver-at-spi/-/blob/91486b50995ade23c6b03a54f77347c263c2f03a/calculatortest.py

HS

+energy-efficie...@kde.org

Servus Harald,

that looks very cool!

It could also come in handy for energy consumption measurements where we
need an automated and predictable way to emulate user interaction.

The idea of using a11y API for that came up, but AFAIK there's no work
to actually do it on our side.

That's three birds one stone I guess?

Cheers

Nico


PS: I pondered about different ways to do GUI automation for energy
consumption measurements in my master thesis recently, but I left the
a11y way for future work. If you are interested you can find the thesis
at https://nx9294.your-storageshare.de/s/PDQK4DEyPMW8AHM


Season of KDE student Nitin Tejuja has done some great work writing scripts in Selenium to be used for energy consumption measurements and accessibility testing. Nitin's work is based on selenium-at-spi developed by Harald.

You can read more at the KDE Eco blog:

*Final Weeks Of SoK23 With KDE Eco: Writing Scripts In Selenium To Reproduce KdeEcoTest Script*

  https://eco.kde.org/blog/2023-04-20-sok23-kde-eco-selenium-project-3/

Also, check out the step-by-step guide to be included soon as Chapter 4 in the energy measurement handbook (draft):

https://invent.kde.org/teams/eco/be4foss/-/merge_requests/79/diffs#9535d50cb0a5be5a4f5e08ebc2a839c07afdb834

> Selenium AT-SPI the future Kde tool to test accessibility and measure power consomption. > A step by step guide to use Selenium AT-SPI to automatise system testing of QT applications

You can support Nitin's work by boosting the Mastodon post promoting the above blog post:

  https://floss.social/@be4foss/110231776673032085

Cheers,
Joseph

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