2010/3/30 Marco Martin <notm...@gmail.com> > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marco Martin <notm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: > > >> Hey everybody, > > >> > > >> I think it will be really difficult to have the UI scale from 50" > > >> screens right down to 5" screens. At the moment we use a top panel for > > >> playback control (and mode switching) and will use a bottom panel for > > > > > > i don't think the mode switching should ultimately be there, the modes > > > should be shown as mammoth icons in a main menu in the browser itself, > > > that would be a kind of "root folder" for it. > > > > From the wiki: > > On PMC startup the user will see a beautiful home applet that has (PMC > > is meant to be fullscreen): > > > > * Buttons to switch to the following media modes: Pictures, Music, > > Videos (later: Games, maybe an all Media Mode) > > * Area with information about your recently played media, highest > > ratings, things that allow you to jumpstart to a specific media. > > * Possibility to add normal plasmoids, like note apps, web slice,... > > do you plan to make that home applet the top bar? is not fullscreen enough, > and put all the possible mode here will quickly run out of space an be > cluttered, in the bar there should be a single button, triggered also from > a > single real key (could be esc or home, or whatever in keyboards, the more > adapt case by case on remotes) > that "home applet" if you want it really isolated could be a different > containment, so would be a totally standaloe fullscreen thing, but i don't > think i like it. > >
> i really do think it should be right into the browser, the "modes" together > eventual plugins to do other stuff should be right into the browser as > items, > so they can be as big as possible taking the whole screen or scale decently > if > some day there will be many of them. > This is how the browser currently works. It starts showing available plugins to use for browsing. And i do agree with this behavior. > > the "adding normal plasmoids" part divides in two categories: > tiny plasmoids with a brief informational value: > couldbe put somewhere in the main containment, an rssnow with finally some > adaptments for panels could be put in the bottom bar for instance, or we > could > want an analog clock somewhere in the screen while a videos is playing and > the > controls/info are shown on top, just because we can... > > or on the other hand there could be some plasmoid that scale well as full > screen things, like a browser or a way more detailed version of the weather > applet, those could take their own containment and be shown as fullscreen, > launched from the browser > > > So eventually only the home button will remain in the controller and > > the home screen will be the root of everything. On media type switch > > we will then alwys go via the home applet (2 clicks). At some point we > > thought that having mode switch buttons in the controller would be > > good to reduce switching to 1 click. At one point I imagined holding > > the home button in the controller would make a sort of drawer expand > > which would show the other mode buttons. > > > > >> displaying information about media. The bottom panel might be reusable > > >> for a big screen UI, but the playback control migth have to be > > >> transformed into something else. Anyway, the way Alessandro designed > > > > > > as long as it scales big enough to be readable it will be perfectly > fine. > > > on a tv that thing will be purely informational since you won't click > > > that buttons, because you would have play,stop, fast forward etc > > > directly into the remote > > > > anyway, the controller has a "toggle autohide" button, we can set it > > to always autohide on big TV screens > > > > it should -always- be autohide and what is lacking at the moment is a way > to > decide what autohide at the proper moment. > when you are watching a movie you can want to unhide only the top bar ith > the > progress and the bottom bar with informations. > > another thing is when you decide you want something else, so you could want > to > unhide the browser and/or the playlist. the two things don't make much > sense > shown at the same time, really. > > Cheers, > Marco Martin > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > -- Alessandro Diaferia KDE Developer KDE e.V. member
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