Am Mittwoch 23 September 2009 18:21:32 schrieb Aurélien Gâteau: > Martin Gräßlin wrote: > >> An important point: While the patch is integrated in Kubuntu, the > >> default behavior is to use KDE notifications. The user can switch to > >> Ayatana notifications through an option of the system tray configuration > >> dialog (there are even preview buttons to help the user decide). > >> > >> http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/plasma-ayatana-notifications/config > >>ura tion.png > > > > Sorry have you ever considered how that looks to the user? Which user > > does know about Ayatana? That is a technical term which should not be > > presented in a UI. > > I was thinking just like you. My initial patch was labeled "Lighter > notifications", but Celeste and ScottK (of Kubuntu fame) suggested to > put the Ayatana word here to start building a brand on it. > > > Why should a user switch to something else than the KDE notifications? > > The dialog is completely missing any information on what the > > notifications provide, what's the difference between the two and in the > > end it will come down to the one provides different possible positions > > while the other doesn't > > It seems you missed the "Preview" buttons in the dialog. No I didn't and tried it. But still it just shows that it is a different style. It doesn't show anything about the different functionalities. It's just a small preview it's not usage, like a Kopete notfication or a Suspend notification. > > > (btw > > the last time I tested Karmic the edges monitor didn't get disabled when > > switching to KDE notifications). > > Good point. Will fix. > > > If you wanted to give an easy way to test this > > system while not destroying user experience you should have made this a > > hidden config file option. > > I would not call this an "easy way to test" An easy way to experiment for advanced users while not breaking setups for beginners. > > > And I am realy afraid that there will be the time when Kubuntu switches > > from KDE notifications to those Ayatana notifications. I realy hope that > > will never happen. > > My knowledge of the Kubuntu community makes me quite confident this > won't happen. Well maybe the French community is better. But for Germany there is no such thing as a translator for Kubuntu any more. Rosetta did a good job on that :-( Obvious strings like "Select System Language" in the Language KCM is still untranslated for years. But that's OT. > > > There might be good things about it and it would be great to bring > > them into the normal KDE notifications but all together I don't want the > > system. > > That's all I want you to find. Experiment with it and extract anything > which makes sense from it. > > > I have spoken to many Ubuntu users and nobody has said a good word > > about notifiy-osd, the most common saying was "broken by design". > > As I said, the changes received varied feedback. I met Ubuntu users who > really loved notify-osd, and others who don't. > > Aurélien > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel >
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