On Friday 13 March 2009, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > You don't find constructive suggesting that he might try joining forces > with kmix instead duplicating work?
the only way to avoid duplicating work (and the duplication would be rather minimal, btw) would be to make kmix embeddable in plasma. a kpart would not be enough because the needs of a panel or media center interface are fairly different than what you want in a planar (e.g. desktop or full app window) interface. so we'd need to make kmix into a plasmoid because those are actually able to: * be easily embedded * theme nicely to fit their surroundings * can adapt to the formfactors this would make the kmix binary essentially `plasmoidviewer mixer` with an app menu on top. when run as kmix, we'd turn on the "native theme" flag so that buttons, etc would use the native theme. that would be sensible. kmix is something that ought to be properly integratable with the desktop *and* exist as a purely stand alone app. it should look the like a "regular" app when run stand alone and like the desktop shell when integrated there. one code base. and with plasma, that would be 100% possible. as kmix currently is, and even with a kpart, that's not possible. but i wouldn't ever even DARE try and do the sensible thing here and turn kmix into a plasmoid that runs in a window that we can then also use on the desktop because i fear, and and i think rightfully so, that people like you would just block any such effort while shouting about how plasma is trying to take over kde (whatever that means). do you have any idea how frustrating this situation is for those of us working on the kde workspace? i mean, it's not like we're thinking that okular should become a plasmoid or that ksnapshot should be rewritten as a plasmoid. we're being reasonable and trying to make technical decisions based on user centric design concepts. anyways, in the meantime we'll do what we can to make the workspace better. it would be awesome if others would help rather than block our efforts at every turn. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Software
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