On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:52 AM, tedd wrote:

> At 11:37 AM -0600 2/15/11, Nicholas Kell wrote:
>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:51 AM, tedd wrote:
>> > At 8:26 PM -0500 2/14/11, Brian Waters wrote:
>> >> (if that's OK). I know that PHP sometimes has a reputation for having
>> >> (some) lousy developers, and I'd like to avoid becoming one of those
>> >
>> > We don't agree that PHP has a reputation of having some lousy developers 
>> > -- because that's simply not true.
>> 
>> Humm.... I seem to agree with the OP. But, that being said, unlike most 
>> language fanboys PHP'ers usually fully admit it.
> 
> 
> I guess that we run in different worlds. Most of the PHP programmers I know 
> are very good.
> 

I have to agree with you, tedd. Most of the PHP devs that I know are also quite 
good. But, the fact that both you and I know mostly good devs is not going to 
change the perceived reputation of PHP harboring lousy developers.

I also believe that the rep that PHP has, is in part to blame that PHP is a 
first (and sometimes only) language for a lot of people. That, mixed with the 
publishing rate of code, makes for some lousy code to be seen by all.
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