The last paragraph refers to me :) and im quite proud of it now, ive printed some of your emails out, and i keep them around, they really do make me smile, not becuase im so much an a$$hole, but becuase, youve already said, that altering your firewall allowed you to connect. Which not so coincidently, i suggested in the beginning. You call it a guess, an uneducated blunder maybe, whatever helps you sleep at night
PS.. takes you half hour to drop your firewall.. sheesh,.. and for note, and honestly, for your benefit, SP2 _will_ enable a _new_ firewall on your computer, unless youve configured otherwise, there is a new security center that will complain if your firewall is not enabled, have you seen this complaint? J "Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > The firewall is relevant depending on your circumstances. In any case it > > would > > take you all of one minute to disable your firewall to test out this "wild > > far out suggestion". At the most you would have lost one minute but you > > would > > have either: > > > > - gained the satisfaction of saying "I told you the firewall was > > irrelevant, > > now go away and stop wasting my time with your ridiculous suggestions" > > > > or > > > > - you would have found the cause of your problem > > It definitely takes more than a minute. It takes nearly a minute just to > logoff one user and I often have another user, the Administrator account, > also logged in. If the Administrator account is not lgged in already, then I > must log in to it to shutdown ZoneAlarm. Then the system must shutdown and > restart. While that is happening, I must unplug the cable modem to ensure I > get nothing from/to the outside, but that can be done in parrallel with > system shutdown. However I must stay at the system while this is happening; > I prefer to unplug the cable after the system disconnects from the modem. > Then I must log in to at least one account and start a few things, such as > Apache. Relatively speaking, Apache starts immediatley, so it is not very > relevant, but it does take time for my system to start. Then after the test > I must restart ZoneAlarm, restart the system and be sure to plug the modem > back in while the system starts. The whole operation is likely to take > nearly a half hour at least. > > > Contrast that with the number of posts you have made denying that the > > firewall > > could be a problem, and stating adamantly that you will not do > > such-and-such > > a thing because it is 'not supposed' to happen like that. > > The problem is all the people that persist in saying the same thing. I am > smart enough to think of the things being suggested. It is the type of thing > that is very easy to suggest. I get frustrated by people suggesting things > just because they are easy to suggest. Therefore when people make a > suggestion that is more likely to be relevant it is difficult for me to > determine which ones are worthwhile. And again, I am able to think of things > such as eliminating the firewall as a possibility. It is okay for people to > suggest that, but unless they can show me something that clearly says it is > relevant, then they won't accomplish anything by insisting. > > One problem is that I get answers that are not accurate, so it is difficult > to know which ones are accurate. > > The most important thing is that unless people give me a clear explanation > of what they are saying, it is useless to insist. I don't mind a suggestion > as much as it is the insisting that causes problems. Therefore from my point > of view, it is the insistance by others that keep the discussion going (in > useless directions). > > There is one person in particular that tries too hard to help and then when > I politely say I am getting too much help I get criticized. That is not a > productive attitude. > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
