Thanks Justin and Miles for your ideas.
It can take a looong time and a huge quantity of beer to disscuss them.
I was asking for some other ideas just about the code, how to solve this
problem technicaly not if this is a good idea to use one / two colums,
tables or DIVS, print vs screen etc.

thanks anyway

saludos

aniceto lópez :: DYNAMICAL.BIZ
web development & host services
Barcelona - Spain


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: miércoles, 27 de agosto de 2003 15:06
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: [PHP] dynamical balancing text in two colums


To throw a huge spanner in the works:

1. tables are not intended for layout

2. devices other than a PC/Windows web browser may be more suited to q
well structured XHTML based, table-less format with CSS for styling.

3. columns work well in a newspaper, but do not translate well to the
web, since you have no idea where the bottom of the screen is... who
wants to scroll down, only to discover this is half or one third of the
text, having to scroll up again???


IF ANYTHING, structure/style your columns using DIVs/CSS, NOT tables...
that way, for accessibility purposes, the content is still readable
when read top-to-bottom, via something like a PDA, mobile/cell phone,
text-to-speach converter, etc.


Yes, i use columns in layout, but NOT to discuss one topic... each
column is a div, and each div is styled with CSS to look like a column
when styled, and each div discusses one topic... a long article would
not be spread across two divs... this is a structural nightmare!!!

You are trying to emulate another medium (print), rather than embracing
another (web) which has a different set of rules.


If you must break the text into two columns, try to do it with divs and
style sheets, not tables, so that it's structurally not too far out of
normal reading.


Really though, do your readers want/need this???


I hate to think how bad this sort of ugly mark-up prints out!!!


Justin






On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 03:10  AM, Dynamical.biz wrote:

> Hi, I've been dealing withs this question:
>
> I've never seen dynamical balanced text in two colums in a web so this
> the
> challenge.
>
> html formated text is stored in a database, conetion and placed into a
> variable i.e.:
> $text = "<P><IMG alt="labordeta" hspace=3
> src="http://www.lamundial.net/img/labordeta.jpg"; align=left
> border=0><EM>efe.Zaragoza.</EM> El parlamentario.</P><P>Some more text
> tranquilo simplenente trabajando.</P>"; ... some more paragrphs just
> like
> newspaper articles.
>
> the first idea is this:
> 1. count the total characters in $text string so we can guess juts the
> half
> 2. getting into $tx1 variable the fisrt half
> 3. count the total characters in $tx1 till the fisrt "</p>" STARTING
> from
> the END to the BEGUINING of $tx1
> 4. getting into $col1 the fist part
> 5. getting into $col2 the rest
> 6. render the text in a table
>
> //CODE
> 1. $half = floor(strlen($texto)/2);
> 2. $tx1 = substr($text,0,$half);
> 3. $first_P = strrpos($tx1,"</P>");
>
> 4. $col1 = substr($text,0,$first_P);
> 5. $col2 = substr($text,$first_P);
> 6.
> <table>
>   <tr>
>     <td><?= $col1 ?></td>
>     <td><?= $col2 ?></td>
>   </tr>
> </table>
>
> PROBLEMS
> easy to know the middle point of a string but we have html code so
> easy to
> break it badly, something like:
> <IMG hspace=3 src="ht <-|-> tp://www.lamundial.net/img/img.jpg"> so
> this is
> why the </p> idea.
>
> If there is a large paragrph in the middle of the whole text the
> columns the
> two columns are not so nice balanced, this is why I ask the people
> writing
> articles for my web trying to avoid looooong ones. They use HTMLAREA
> http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ from Interactive
> tools so
> the html is not done by hand.
>
> anyway just in case there is no way to correctly balance the text I
> let the
> writer the "1 colum / 2 colums" as an option so the traditional 1
> colum (no
> colums) is always available. they can display the final render os the
> article as they save it when writing so the decide.
>
> this is working at most of the articles in
> http://www.lamundial.net
>
> i.e.:
> http://www.lamundial.net/home.php?pg=article&idart=124
> http://www.lamundial.net/home.php?pg=article&idart=121
> http://www.lamundial.net/home.php?pg=article&idart=118
>
> the text balancing is working quite nice
>
>
> any other idea?
> thanks
>
>
>
> aniceto lópez
> DYNAMICAL.BIZ
> web development
> host services
>
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