This kind of opiniion wars appear every since in many of the lists I'm subscribed to.
The thing is that they ussually tend to nothing, since there are always people who think on one way, and otehrs who think the other, and no matter what you say, they will continue thinking that way. I agree that there are too many lazy people who just ask "Can you tell me how to do this?" whit subjects sucha as "PLEASEEEE HELPPPPPPP!!!", that didn't bother to RTFM or STFW. Maybe some understood with this postings what we meant about it, and maybe others didn't, or don't want to, or just think different... But the thing is that this thread is getting larger and larger, and it's even worse than baring with stupid questions... No matter what we do or say, there will always be people whjo will not bother to RTFM, or who are newbies and don't know how to search for things, or who just subscribed to the list and didn't read recent related postings and didn't bother to STFW or don't know how to do it... So, regardless of what we think, we have no other option than try to educate and point people to the right direction telling them who to do things in good manners. I've replied more than one RTFM or STFW, and many times per day I desire to do it!!!! All those sometimes stupid questions, consume your bandwidth and time, but this wars are worst... So I think we should try to educate, and if those messages bother us, and we don't want to educate, then maybe it's better to try to ignore them and just not reply to them... and let anyone who doesn't mind in wasting his/her time reply... but this person should also try to educate and not just provide code to the one who says "please tell me exavctly how to do this". Many of us have little time to investigate sometimes, but you have to do it, it's your job to do it. And if you are not a programmer and don't know how to do it, then you should not be programming, hire someone to do it... So please, we should cut off with this thread, since it will lead to nothing, and let's try to educate!!! :) Interesting link: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and Google seraching for "netiquette" Regards, Juan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php