Thanks for the answers and opinions. If you all put it that way, it really seems like certifications are just another way for big companies to make money :) I was not looking for a PHP one as an option to replace experience, in fact I've been working with PHP for about 3 years now and have what I consider a lot (maybe not as much as some of you out there) of experience with it and recently I got a full time job as a PHP developer and couldn't be hapier with my job :). I was just curious why the PHP developers or zend hadn't made plans for certifications, I guess the reason is cleared now. Thanks all!.
Oscar F.-
Warren Vail wrote:
A working public website, that solves a business problem, is a good credential. I can't help but wonder if it takes more hours to develop a respectable site or to study and take an exam. Do you suppose the certification exam might actually be an easier option?
Warren Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yeh well these exams come in modules , and are extremely pricey , i think good web examples, screenshots and experience should be enough, sadly i have not done uni so am frowned upon when looking for work but have experience in the work force, 4 years in IT now ok thats not enough but i have fine tuned my programming skills, i am wanting to move in java also now, i contract also but dont have much on my portfolio to show to get the jobs , just starting the business side of things and may have to work for near nothing just to get examples up, so i think portfolio examples are more important than certification.
Certification programs, imho, exist primarily for two reasons;
1. it allows developers with little experience to add credibility to their claims that they know how to develop software.
2. it allows non-technical people involved in the hiring chain to make judgements when they have no clue at all how to judge good technical competence. Course, after you've been around a while, you learn that you cannot do a proper job of judging anyone's competence, even after many hours of interviews. The proof is in the project outcome.
3. Ok, I forgot the third reason... Someone will make lots of money selling training materials and administering the tests. Did you really think Microsoft got into this side of the business just to improve the quality of technical consulting.
my 2 cents (ok, maybe 4 cents),
Warren Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I find the value of such certification programs
extremely questionable.
here here :D
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