Developer Certifications only mean something if you are trying to get a
government job.
I have only been asked for sites that I have done and been asked once for a
sample
of code. I would go to another recruiter if I were you. Every place I
have applied looked
at urls and code functionality. I would never ever hire someone who had an
MCSE.
I look at skills that someone has, and coding style. I know high school
students who
program better than people in our nation's top computer courses. IMHO
certifications
are garbage. I would rather hire someone who can learn then someone who
was spoon
fed and just managed to take a stupid course that doesn't teach you what
you need
to know.
BTW the microsoft certifications are worth nothing now, even to microsoft.
Rick
At 02:58 PM 3/8/01 -0500, Krznaric Michael wrote:
> OK now I'm pissed. I consider myself to be an above average
>programmer with extensive skill in PHP (amongst other things).
>
> NOW... I am not going to go jumping through hoops just because some
>ignorant/illiterate HR Recruiter/IS Head thinks that if you're not PHP
>certified by some company (eg. brainbench) you're not worth consideration.
>I REFUSE to do it. I WOULD NOT on my life take the MCSE of MCwhatever,
>however I may take the Cisco or the Oracle test. Things that require and
>properly compensate specialization I am open to. But things that test how
>well you can interact with a GUI (Windows) are bullshit. With respect to
>PHP there are other methods of determining ones competency with a particular
>language. What should be judged is a persons overall programming
>competency, or how well they can adapt to a new language, as oppose to
>specialization in PHP or PERL or ..... If you specialize in PHP, what are
>you going to do when there is no more PHP. (Not that we are expecting that).
>
> To summarize, judging a proficiency as it relates to a particular
>language shows the inexperience and ignorance of your future management.
>The bottom line is that "YOU DO NOT WANT TO WORK FOR PEOPLE LIKE THAT". I'm
>sure some experienced programmers around here know what I'm talking about.
>
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:33 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [PHP] Developer certifications
>
>
>Does anyone know of a company which is offering or planning to offer PHP
>developer certifications? Arguments against certification programs aside[1],
>there are a lot of companies which prefer certified developers, even to the
>point of assuming a project done in ASP will be better than the same thing
>done
>in PHP simply because the ASP developers are Microsoft certified.
>
>While this seems like an interesting sideline for a company like Zend, I'm
>also
>somewhat curious about whether an "Open Source" test could be developed.
>It'd
>certainly have to be quite different from normal tests and that move away
>from
>easily memorized answers would probably be a very good thing.
>
>[1] We've all heard them before. I'm personally in favor only of
>certifications
>like certain devilishly hard Cisco exams which measure more than
>multiple-choice memory.
>
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