Mike,
I agree that at times Jason (and plenty of others, including myself on a bad
day) tend to use the "search google" and "RTFM" replies a lot, but the
reality is that if people did a quick search in the manual, and a quick
search on google, this list would be a lot less cluttered.
It also goes a long way in showing that the original poster isn't simply
lazy, and has made SOME effort to find the answer before posting to a list.
We'd also have well-formed questions like:
"I checked out the manual page on file uploads, and tried getting
the example script to work, but I'm getting the following error
(...) -- can anyone offer advice?"
Rather than:
"I can't get file uploading to work, please read my 2000 line
script and tell me what's wrong"
I just had a kick around google, and couldn't find much to do with
netbilling and PHP (apart from http://dreamcost.com/?page=dreamaccount), but
the fact is if the OP had mentioned that he/she had already searched google
with little success, this whole discussion could have been avoided :)
Which is better? Teaching someone the answer to a problem, or teaching
someone how to find the answer (and future answers) themselves?
"Search google" may not be a detailed answer, or even a polite one, but in
many cases (not necessarily this OP of this thread) a lazy question deserves
a lazy response.
Justin French
on 30/05/03 12:49 AM, Mike Morton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I have to get this off my chest, and I tried to send it directly to Jason
> off list, but the email bounces back. Why? Probably because he gets a lot
> of these emails. Don't like what I have to say? Tough luck, I am sick of
> unconstructive emails hitting the list putting people down. If you cannot
> or will not answer someone, just don't answer them at all. Be helpful, not
> hurtful. Oops, should take my own advice and not post this at all, but I
> need to get it off my chest, I am sure that I am not the only one thinking
> it:
>
> Jason:
>
> Why do you bother to answer on the php list at all? 90% of the messages
> from you are 'search google' if you do not have constructive info to offer,
> why bother to answer at all. I am directing this to you because the list
> does not need to see my crap about it, but it just makes me sick to see you
> over and over putting people down who are just asking for help.
>
> Really, I have been a member of MANY lists over the years, and I truly have
> never seen anyone as negative as you. If you do not have a useful answer to
> the question just don't answer- you clutter the list and my inbox.
>
> And no, 'search google' is not a good answer - at the best of times it is
> tough to wade through all the crap that google spits at you, at the worst of
> times, most people do not even know what to search for to narrow it down!
> Never mind searching the list archive - half the time all I get back is your
> emails saying 'search google'!
>
> Geeze, look what you have made me do, get pissed of and waste my time
> flaming you. What a waste of our time.
>
>
> On 5/29/03 5:43 AM, "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 29 May 2003 17:36, Ralph wrote:
>>> I have to setup credit card verification/processing with Netbilling.com,
>>> does anybody know of a PHP based Netbilling gateway script or class?
>>
>> Have you searched google?
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Mike Morton
>
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