Edit report at https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=51882&edit=1

 ID:                 51882
 User updated by:    jacob at mediashaker dot com
 Reported by:        jacob at mediashaker dot com
 Summary:            Call To Member Function on Non-Object Should Throw
                     An Exception
 Status:             Open
 Type:               Feature/Change Request
 Package:            *General Issues
 Operating System:   Centos 5.3
 PHP Version:        5.2.13
 Block user comment: N
 Private report:     N

 New Comment:

It's simply a general headache. I'm aware of the register_shutdown_function 
tricks but unless I've done it wrong, they don't provide a full, accurate 
stacktrace. In any case, this is exactly what this proposal is meant to avoid - 
created separate error-handling code paths for a common error that does not, 
from experience with other dynamic languages, need to be fatal.

In Python I get:
AttributeError: User instance has no attribute 'sayHello'

It's got a full traceback, it's catchable, it has a nicely subclassed error 
type. Fatal errors have none of this.

It's a larger issue in cases where you have more complex object object graphs, 
in cases where you have references to objects that pass hands frequently. etc. 
In an enterprise application with object compositions and complex class 
hierarchies, it's not unusual to have situations where you don't have the 
object you expect to have. Certainly, this is a bug, but bugs are the reality 
of software development and tracing them should be as easy as reasonably 
possible.

Unless you have xdebug installed for traceback information, you've got to find 
the line of code that initially caused the error and then do something like 
`var_dump(debug_backtrace())` to figure out the code path that led to the 
error. In a production system with hundreds of deployments, you often can't 
simply go around sprinkling debug statements in production code just to get 
debug information you could've had for free if the thing were an exception.

If my web app has a nice exception handling mechanism where uncaught errors are 
caught by a final, top-level exception handler, where I do things such as 
e-mail a sysadmin, or display the error in a pretty-formatted HTML page, these 
fatal errors slip through the cracks.

Unless this is a performance decision, or because the development team is 
limited by legacy support / backwards compatibility, the behavior simply sucks. 
From my POV, this does not need to be as difficult as PHP makes it. 

In general, PHP's errors are wonky. Half of them use trigger_error and error 
codes, others use exceptions, and finally, there's this big guy which is a 
fatal error.


Previous Comments:
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[2011-07-20 15:47:43] binarycleric at gmail dot com

I disagree with changing this from being a fatal error.  

Trying to call a method on an object that doesn't exist should always result in 
a fatal error because you are 
especially calling non-existent code. Trying to call a procedural function that 
doesn't exist should result in the 
same behavior.  I personally wouldn't want anything other than a fatal error to 
occur if I tried to call 
"some_import_func($herp, $derp);" and it didn't exist, because there is really 
no sane way to recover from that.  We 
have "function_exists" and "method_exists" for a reason.

If you are having constant problems like this with your code then that is 
usually a symptom of a larger problem in 
how your application is structured.  There are hacks and workarounds to get 
stacktrace information after a fatal 
error using things like "register_shutdown_function", but your code really 
shouldn't try to "recover" from a failure 
that catastrophic.

I don't mean for this comment to have an "internet toughguy" additude, I'm just 
trying to show you that your code 
may have more serious problems then you realize.  You already have a good 
number 
of tools in your toolbox, you just 
need to learn to use them better.

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[2010-05-21 19:19:32] jacob at mediashaker dot com

Description:
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Call to a member function on a non-object is one of the most common reasons a 
php script might crash.

Granted, there's often a whole chain of responsibility that falls apart for it 
to get to this point.

The problem with this fatal error is that it provides absolutely no debugging 
or traceback information when it happens. PHP blows up on fatal errors and all 
you're left with is a line number and no idea how it got there.

It would be awesome if it threw an exception with it's requisite traceback 
information.



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