Hi John

Thank yo for working on this. I had one question about the mixed use of 
intrinsics and inline asm here.

> On Jan 12, 2026, at 1:27 AM, John Naylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, May 14, 2025 I wrote:
>> 
>> We did something similar for x86 for v18, and here is some progress
>> towards Arm support.
> 
> Coming back to this, since there's been recent interest in Arm support.
> 
> v2 is a rebase, with a few changes.
> 
> - I simplified it by leaving out the inlining for "assume CRC" builds,
> since I wanted to avoid alignment considerations if I can. I think
> always indirecting through a pointer will have less risk of
> regressions in a realistic setting than for x86 since Arm chips
> typically have low latency for carryless multiplication instructions.
> With just a bit of code we can still use the direct call for small
> constant inputs, so I did that to avoid regressions under WAL insert
> lock.
> 
> - One coding idiom for a vector literal in the generated code was
> giving pgindent indigestion, I so rewrote it using Neon intrinsics and
> verified it in Godbolt.
> 
>> 0002: Like 3c6e8c12389 and in fact uses the same program to generate
>> the code, by specifying Neon instructions with the Arm "crypto"
>> extension instead. There are some interesting differences from x86
>> here as well:
>> - The upstream implementation chose to use inline assembly instead of
>> intrinsics for some reason. I initially thought that was a way to get
>> broader compiler support, but it turns out you still need to pass the
>> relevant flags to get the assembly to link.


Since the implementation already uses NEON intrinsics such as vld1q_u64, I was 
wondering why the pmull / pmull2 + eor helpers still need to be inline asm 
rather than intrinsics.

Is that due to compiler/toolchain support, or because the intrinsic-based 
version produced noticeably worse code?



> To follow-up for curiosity's sake, [1] says that Apple chips can issue
> PMULL + EOR as a single uop if they are next to each other in the
> instruction stream.
> 
>> - I only have Meson support for now, since I used MacOS on CI to test.
>> That OS and compiler combination apparently targets the CRC extension,
>> but the PMULL instruction runtime check uses Linux-only headers, I
>> believe, so previously I hacked the choose function to return true for
>> testing. The choose function in 0002 is untested in this form.
> 
> This is still true, but now the CI hack lives in a separate
> not-for-commit patch for clarity.
> 
> autoconf support is a WIP, and I will share that after I do some
> testing on an Arm Linux instance.
> 
> [1] https://dougallj.github.io/applecpu/firestorm.html
> 
> --
> John Naylor
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> <v2-0001-Compute-CRC32C-on-ARM-using-the-Crypto-Extension-.patch><v2-0002-Force-testing-on-MacOS-CI-XXX-not-for-commit.patch>

Regards
Haibo

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