When trying to check this domain I get an occasinal error: $ dig @1.1.1.1 riecis.nl
; <<>> dig 9.10.8-P1 <<>> @1.1.1.1 riecis.nl ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30228 ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232 ; EDE: 3 (Stale Answer) ; EDE: 22 (No Reachable Authority): 74 69 6d 65 20 6c 69 6d 69 74 20 65 78 63 65 65 64 65 64 ("time limit exceeded") ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;riecis.nl. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: riecis.nl. 0 IN A 159.46.204.40 ;; Query time: 859 msec ;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1) ;; WHEN: Thu Sep 22 09:46:26 CEST 2022 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 85 Same for 8.8.8.8 Also zonemaster.net not 100% happy with it. Lookint at a --trace run I see: Sep 22 09:51:02 [2] Nameserver ns2.minvenj.nl IPs: 159.46.194.12(0.00ms), 2a04:9a04:18ad:8a04::3:0(0.00ms) Sep 22 09:51:02 [2] riecis.nl: Resolved 'riecis.nl' NS ns2.minvenj.nl to: 159.46.194.12, 2a04:9a04:18ad:8a04::3:0 Sep 22 09:51:02 [2] riecis.nl: Trying IP 159.46.194.12:53, asking 'riecis.nl|A' Sep 22 09:51:02 [2] riecis.nl: truncated bit set, over UDP Sep 22 09:51:02 [2] riecis.nl: using TCP with 159.46.194.12:53 Sep 22 09:51:03 [1] riecis.nl: timeout resolving after 1857.92msec over TCP Sep 22 09:51:03 [1] riecis.nl: Trying IP 159.46.194.12:53, asking 'riecis.nl|A' Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: timeout resolving after 1538.18msec over TCP Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: Trying IP [2a04:9a04:18ad:8a04::3:0]:53, asking 'riecis.nl|A' Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: query throttled 2a04:9a04:18ad:8a04::3:0, riecis.nl; A Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: Trying to resolve NS 'ns1.minvenj.nl' (2/2) Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] Nameserver ns1.minvenj.nl IPs: 2a04:9a04:18ad:8a04::2:0(920.59ms), 159.46.194.11(920.59ms) Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: Resolved 'riecis.nl' NS ns1.minvenj.nl to: 2a04:9a04:18ad:8a04::2:0, 159.46.194.11 Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: Trying IP [2a04:9a04:18ad:8a04::2:0]:53, asking 'riecis.nl|A' Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: query throttled 2a04:9a04:18ad:8a04::2:0, riecis.nl; A Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: Trying IP 159.46.194.11:53, asking 'riecis.nl|A' Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: query throttled 159.46.194.11, riecis.nl; A Sep 22 09:51:03 [2] riecis.nl: Failed to resolve via any of the 2 offered NS at level 'riecis.nl' Which confirms zonemaster's finding. NOte that this does not happen all the time, but often enough. Conclusion: the auths for riecis.nl are flakey. They (sometimes) respond with TC=1 but fail to do TCP. -Otto On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 09:27:20AM +0200, Leeflangetje via Pdns-users wrote: > Hi, > > Since we upgraded to pdns-recursor 4.6 we sometimes experience some > weird behaviour with queries via pdns-recursor. > > Sometimes, when a previously queried record expires through it's TTL, > the recursor does not provide an answer anymore, until it's restarted. > > Unfortunately I am not able to reproduce this. It happens occasionally. > When it happens, we see this: > > Faulty server: > > dig @ns1 riecis.nl A > > ; <<>> DiG 9.11.36-RedHat-9.11.36-3.el8 <<>> @ns1 riecis.nl A > ; (1 server found) > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27148 > ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 > > ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: > ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;riecis.nl. IN A > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > riecis.nl. 2828 IN SOA ns1.minvenj.nl. hostmaster.solvinity.com. > 2022010301 1800 300 604800 3600 > > ;; Query time: 2 msec > ;; SERVER: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx#53(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) > ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 20 12:16:55 CEST 2022 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 110 > > other server: > > dig @ns2 riecis.nl A > > ; <<>> DiG 9.11.36-RedHat-9.11.36-3.el8 <<>> @ns2 riecis.nl A > ; (1 server found) > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61517 > ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 > > ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: > ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;riecis.nl. IN A > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > riecis.nl. 224 IN A 159.46.204.40 > > ;; Query time: 1 msec > ;; SERVER: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx#53(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) > ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 20 12:17:03 CEST 2022 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 54 > > > We have a fairly simple configuration, just on what address and port to > listen on, to use the same address for outgoing queries, en a short li > st of addresses that are allowed to query. > > I have confirmed this problem upto and including version 4.6.3 > > Anyone an idea on how to approach this matter? > > Regards > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pdns-users mailing list > Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com > https://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users _______________________________________________ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com https://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users