iPhone photos can be effortlessly transferred to a Mac via Airdrop. Very 
convenient. 

 In the past I’ve used a lesser phone to document ideas I may later want to 
pursue as newspaper or magazine articles, usually with the intention of 
shooting with a camera subsequently. A few phone pics have made it into print 
because they were there when needed. I will probably use the 12 professionally 
on occasion. But its lack of long lens capability is limiting. However, it’s 
just what I need for family pics and social events.

Paul

> On Feb 20, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 12:24 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> The thing about cell phone photos is I don't know any way to get them onto 
>> my computer other than sending them to myself vial email.
> 
> For android to mac there is Android file transfer, which is a glorious pain 
> in the ass to get it to actually connect.  It’s as if both Android and Apple 
> want to say that it can be done, but they both go out of their way to make it 
> difficult.  
> 
> There is also an Android App Wifi File Explorer which allows you to point a 
> browser to your android’s file system and download files over wifi.  It has 
> issues, but it works, and I expect it will work with any OS.
> 
>> 
>> Which is adequate for the limited use I make of the cell phone camera.
>> 
>> I'm sort of the inverse ... If you can photograph it with a proper camera 
>> why use the phone?
> 
> I basically use my camera for photography and my cell phone for 
> documentation.  I have a Pixel 3 which is supposed to have one of the best 
> phone cameras available, I just don’t like the feel of the images. Their 
> automatic processing to jpeg doesn’t please me, and the raw files are too 
> brittle to get what I like.  I probably have a few photos from the phone that 
> don’t suck, I’ve just never expended the effort to process them.  
> 
> An ongoing wish among many is to apply the computational photography thrown 
> at phone sensors to camera sensors.  
> 
>> 
>> You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself.
>> 
> 
> The funny thing about my photography is that there are a fair number of 
> people who are much more pleased by my photos than I am, so I often don’t 
> worry overmuch whether I would like it, I just try to get something the 
> person I’m taking the photo for would like.
> 
> 
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